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“Zero Emissions” will Test the Convictions of Canberrans

Viv Forbes

Viv has a degree in Applied Science Geology and is a Fellow of the Australasian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy

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Canberra, with its “zero emissions” target, yearns to be Australia’s greenest address. Good. Let’s use them as a full-blown test of “zero emissions” before we all jump over that cliff.  

Canberra passes thousands of laws for us. If their zero emissions dream is fair dinkum, they need to pass just three laws for themselves.


First, ban all petrol, diesel and gas-powered trucks, cars, boats, generators and aeroplanes from Canberra. That should remove emissions from their atmosphere, food from their supermarkets, and leave their roads free for pedestrians and bicycles. Idle airport runways would be ideal sites for solar panels and wind turbines.


Second, prohibit the importation of electricity generated by coal or gas – they can demonstrate how to survive on wind, solar, hydro, batteries and fire-wood. They should work at home by candle-light on cloudy windless days.


Third, introduce a CCT (Canberra-carbon-tax) whereby all carbon dioxide emitted elsewhere in the production and transport of imported cement, steel, aluminium, bitumen, timber, vehicles, bicycles, solar panels, wind turbines, fire wood and food is charged to ACT end users.


If people flock into emissions-free Canberra we know that this is the way for Australia. But if there is a mass exodus, it will signal that the policy is a failure.


 Let’s test the convictions of Canberrans.

   



Comments

Coal Driven Power Stations and Carbon Dioxide


This was first released in Dec/Jan 2009/10 and is STILL just as applicable now.

Some information which is well worth reading, to clarify the nonsense Australia being conned into the GLOBAL WARMING paranoia.

Learn the Facts…. This is a well worth read.

They can email Terry to verify that it was all written by him and check his qualifications.

This article appeared in the Rockhampton morning Bulletin on 22.12.09. This is an excellent piece for anybody who needs to be educated about
Australia’s Coal driven power houses.

Terry is now retired and is in excellent health at age 69. Nobody paid
him to write the article which was, (to their credit), published by
the local press.

Written By Terence Cardwell [email protected]
The Editor The Morning Bulletin.

I have sat by for a number of years frustrated at the rubbish being
put forth about carbon dioxide emissions, thermal coal fired power
stations and renewable energy and the ridiculous Emissions Trading
Scheme.

Frustration at the lies told (particularly during the election) about
global pollution. Using Power Station cooling towers for an example.
The condensation coming from those cooling towers is as pure as that
that comes out of any kettle.

Frustration about the so called incorrectly named man made ‘carbon
emissions’ which of course is Carbon Dioxide emissions and what it is
supposedly doing to our planet.

Frustration about the lies told about renewable energy and the
deliberate distortion of renewable energy and its ability to replace
fossil fuel energy generation. And frustration at the ridiculous
carbon credit programme which is beyond comprehension.

And further frustration at some members of the public who have not got
a clue about thermal Power Stations or Renewable Energy. Quoting
ridiculous figures about something they clearly have little or no
knowledge of.

First coal fired power stations do NOT send 60 to 70% of the energy up
the chimney. The boilers of modern power station are 96% efficient and
the exhaust heat is captured by the economizers and re heaters and heat
the air and water before entering the boilers.

The very slight amount exiting the stack is moist as in condensation
and CO2. There is virtually no fly ash because this is removed by the
precipitants or bagging plant that are 99.98% efficient. The 4% lost
is heat through boiler wall convection.

Coal fired Power Stations are highly efficient with very little heat
loss and can generate massive amount of energy for our needs. They can
generate power at efficiency of less than 10,000 b.t.u. per kilowatt
and cost wise that is very low.

The percentage cost of mining and freight is very low. The total cost
of fuel is 8% of total generation cost and does NOT constitute a major
production cost.

As for being laughed out of the country, China is building multitudes
of coal fired power stations because they are the most efficient for
bulk power generation.

We have, like, the USA, coal fired power stations because we HAVE the
raw materials and are VERY fortunate to have them. Believe me no one
is laughing at Australia – exactly the reverse, they are very envious
of our raw materials and independence.

The major percentage of power in Europe and U.K. is nuclear because
they don’t have the coal supply for the future.

Yes it would be very nice to have clean, quiet, cheap energy in bulk
supply. Everyone agrees that it would be ideal. You don’t have to be a
genius to work that out. But there is only one problem—It doesn’t
exist.

Yes – there are wind and solar generators being built all over the
world but they only add a small amount to the overall power demand.

The maximum size wind generator is 3 Megawatts, which can rarely be
attained on a continuous basis because it requires substantial forces
of wind. And for the same reason only generate when there is
sufficient wind to drive them. This of course depends where they are
located but usually they only run for 45% -65% of the time, mostly
well below maximum capacity. They cannot be relied for a ‘base load’
because they are too variable. And they certainly could not be used
for load control.

The peak load demand for electricity in Australia is approximately
50,000 Megawatts and only small part of this comes from the Snowy
Hydro Electric System (The ultimate power Generation) because it is
only available when water is there from snow melt or rain. And yes
they can pump it back but it costs to do that. (Long Story).

Tasmania is very fortunate in that they have mostly hydro electric
generation because of their high amounts of snow and rainfall. They
also have wind generators (located in the roaring forties) but that is
only a small amount of total power generated.

Based on a average generating output of 1.5 megawatts (of unreliable
power) you would require over 33,300 wind generators.

As for solar power generation much research has been done over the
decades and there are two types. Solar thermal generation and Solar
Electric generation but in each case they cannot generate large
amounts of electricity.

Any clean, cheap energy is obviously welcomed but they would NEVER
have the capability of replacing Thermal power generation. So get your
heads out of the clouds, do some basic mathematics and look at the
facts not going off with the fairies (or some would say the extreme
greenies.)

We are all greenies in one form or another and care very much about
our planet. The difference is most of us are realistic. Not in some
idyllic utopia where everything can be made perfect by standing around
holding a banner and being a general pain in the backside.

Here are some facts that will show how ridiculous this financial
madness the government is following. Do the simple maths and see for
yourselves.

According to the ‘believers’ the CO2 in air has risen from .034% to
.038% in air over the last 50 years.

To put the percentage of Carbon Dioxide in air in a clearer perspective;

If you had a room 12 ft x 12 ft x 7 ft or 3.7 mtrs x 3.7 mtrs x 2.1
mtrs, the area carbon dioxide would occupy in that room would be .25m
x .25m x .17m or the size of a large packet of cereal.

Australia emits 1 percent of the world’s total carbon Dioxide and the
government wants to reduce this by twenty percent or reduce emissions
by .2 percent of the world’s total CO2 emissions.

What effect will this have on existing CO2 levels?

By their own figures they state the CO2 in air has risen from .034% to
.038% in 50 years. Assuming this is correct, the world CO2 has increased in 50 years by
.004 percent. Per year that is .004 divided by 50 = .00008 percent. (Getting
confusing -but stay with me). Of that because we only contribute 1% our emissions would cause CO2 to rise .00008 divided by 100 = .0000008 percent.

Of that 1%, we supposedly emit, the governments wants to reduce it by
20% which is 1/5th of .0000008 = .00000016 percent effect per year
they would have on the world CO2 emissions based on their own figures.

That would equate to a area in the same room, as the size of a small pin.!!!

For that they have gone crazy with the ridiculous trading schemes,
Solar and roofing installations, Clean coal technology. Renewable
energy, etc, etc.

How ridiculous is that.

The cost to the general public and industry will be enormous. Cripple
and even closing some smaller business.

T.L. Cardwell

To the Editor I thought I should clarify. I spent 25 years in the
Electricity Commission of NSW working, commissioning and operating the
various power units. My last was the 4 X 350 MW Munmorah Power Station
near Newcastle. I would be pleased to supply you any information you
may require.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Some good information. I’d like to make a couple points:

1. Carbon Dioxide is good for the environment, it is food for plants and trees. No real scientist claims CO2 is bad. I remember watching an old documentary where David Attenborough mentioned that 99% of all Carbon Dioxide production in the environment is created by plankton. That was made at a time when CO2 was good for the environment. Yet the Government wants to police & tax the 1% created from humans and animals.

2. I have done a lot of of research in free energy technologies, which was invented by Tesla in recent history and then a number of people after him. There is evidence to suggest free energy existed before Noah’s flood also (this was the purpose of the Pyramids for example which was created by giants through instruction of fallen angels, not Egyptians). Tesla’s works were stolen by JP Morgan once he died and basically about 5 other inventors that have discovered free energy since have been killed. The most recent was a couple years ago, an engineer I was following from Texas has reconstructed a working version of one of Tesla’s designs. He scheduled a conference in Las Vegas where he was going to share the designs for free knowing all previous inventors had been killed. This person disappeared without a trace before the conference, his blog went quiet.

Most of Tesla’s plans were confiscated, but partial plans were leaked and this is what inventors have tried to use to reinvent free electricity. One design used a wire resonating in the earths magnetic field to generate free electricity and the other had a coil set up in a high location which funneled ions from the Ionosphere through a circuit and to ground to create a potential difference. I attempted the second design, but could only produce a small voltage, this was the design the guy from Texas was going to release.

The point is, if the Government was serious about the environment, they would release the free energy plans to the public. Except, it is more important to them to “control” power production because if you control power, you control the people. They will only release extremely inefficient power generation technologies to households (ie. solar, wind). Cheers,
Andy

By Canberra here folks Viv is referring to the rabid extreme left wing Labor/Green dills which inhabit the ACT Government benches, the local state government as it were (as distinct from the Federal dills at Parliament House). The Feds are just visitors to Canberra and a place is provided for them to do their business.

Also no clothes unless they grow/ raise them themselves.

Geez I'm glad I'm a Queenslander and I'm glad we've got a State election on the 25th of this month to get rid of the dill that's been our Premier for nearly the last 3 years and wants to introduce a 50% renewable target to send us even more broke.

A very simple, concise sensible suggestion, Viv. Are they stupid enough to carry it out?

They're not emitting any sense at the moment, or at most other times.

The car of the future? Turn the volume up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRYLByMPJZI

Bloody great idea.

Viv. It is only fitting that the "elite" should get to test out their suicidal, deluded theories on themselves first hand. Disable "all" 240 v power including emergency gen sets. They should invite the 40(?) returning jihadists to share accommodations with them with perhaps a gay marti gras scheduled every second day to provide the entertainment to ease the boredom. They could have debates with the jihadists on SSM.for a little excitement. Remove all petrol /diesel vehicles and make the bastards walk everywhere.

Don't forget the CO2 emissions from the breath of the fkn idiots who congregate in parl-ailment house. If we can stop these shit heads from breathing for a while we will solve far more problems than the fake greenhouse scam. Fair dinkum, Canberra is a total joke.

("they can demonstrate how to survive on wind, solar, hydro, batteries and fire-wood. They should work at home by candle-light on cloudy windless days"). Don't think you can have Firewood or burning candles Viv, they're evil carbon emmiters too.

Well written Viv. Turn off all connectors to the grid

Yup

http://joannenova.com.au/2017/11/some-days-one-thousand-mw-of-solar-vanishes-in-australia/#comment-1958484

Zero emissions are well beyond the capabilities of Billy Bulldust and his GetUp controllers. The pollution surrounding them is easily seen by the clouds of blowflies.

No fossil fuels = no cars, trains, planes. No reliable base load electricity = no reliable essential utilities. Fools paradise for Green dreamers.

Canberra wants a zero emission target ? Tell em they're dreamin.

What about all of the Methane and Shit that spews out of their mouth's

Zero subsidies for RET businesses.

http://joannenova.com.au/2017/11/germans-get-paid-to-use-junk-electricity-wind-power-generates-when-people-dont-want-it/#comments