Alarmists see a man-made calamity in every change in the Antarctic ice cap. There is nothing unusual about ice caps melting, ice sheets splitting, icebergs calving or glaciers advancing or retreating. This has been happening naturally for eons.

In 1513, a Turkish sea captain, Piri Reis, using ancient maps, produced an accurate chart of the coastline of Antarctica which is now covered by a kilometre of ice. Geological evidence suggests it was ice-free just 6,000 years ago. Several past eras of icing and melting follow the natural cycles of the solar system, totally ignoring man’s puny activities.

It is not surprising that most glaciers and ice sheets show melting and calving while snow is being added at their source. If this did not occur, much of Earth’s water would eventually become tied up in the ever-growing ice sheets, as happened in the Ice Ages. And when land-based ice caps melt during periodic warm eras, the sea level inevitably rises and all life-forms must adapt to the new shoreline. 

Sea levels rose swiftly by some 130 metres as ice sheets melted at the end of the latest ice age just 13,000 years ago. This made islands out of many coastal hills. We are all descendants of a long line of survivors who had the sense to adapt to these dramatic sea level changes without needing edicts from climate witch-doctors prohibiting camp fires and ordering villagers to abandon their seaside settlements.

There is no evidence that man’s production of carbon dioxide is having any effect in Antarctica. Despite rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, global surface temperatures are steady, global sea levels are rising very gently and the Antarctic Ocean is cold because the sea-ice surrounding Antarctica has increased to record levels.

Examination of ice cores suggests that it takes several hundred years for Earth’s vast oceans to fully adjust to cycles of global warming and cooling. Thus today’s oceans may be still warming, expanding and degassing in gradual adjustment to the medieval warm era which peaked about 700 years ago.

Ice caps grow and shrink naturally, depending mainly on the relative temperatures of the atmosphere and the surrounding oceans. A warm ocean with a cold atmosphere is a recipe for rapid accumulation of snow and ice on adjacent land. Moisture evaporates rapidly from the warm ocean, and then the cold air over the land triggers precipitation. A warm atmosphere and a cool ocean will reverse that process and see the ice caps return to the ocean.

It is all about the ratio of precipitation versus outflow and melting.

The Arctic is a totally different story, because here, there is no land – just the Arctic Ocean. Floating sea ice comes and goes, depending on the temperature and direction of winds and ocean currents, but the melting of floating ice has no effect whatsoever on global sea levels.

Undersea volcanism is adding warmth to oceans at both poles and under-ice volcanoes may well be melting and undermining ice sheets in the West Antarctic.

Someday the huge Antarctic ice cap may melt, or large slabs of ice may slip off the continent into the sea. When that happens, the seaside homes of Al Gore and Tim Flannery will be submerged and other shore-dwelling humans must evacuate or drown. 

These are all un-stoppable natural events. There is no chance that polar ice will be affected in the slightest by carbon taxes in Australia, wind turbines in the North Sea, or solar panels plastered all over California.

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Here is an interesting article about ice on the North American Great Lakes. http://www.weather.com/news/lake-superior-ice-memorial-day-weekend-2014-20140526

terrestre
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terrestre

Science definition~ The pursuit*of systematic and formulated knowledge,the principles* regulating such pursuit, any branch of such knowledge;political, moral, natural, depending on deductions, of self evident* truths****.The body of what is accurately known* on each subject, based on knowledge and tested by logic,or concerned with science.One studied for practical purposes*, natural or physical,those dealing with material phenomena and observation, experiment and induction.Induction can be `reasoning`.Attraction, motive. Interesting huh Viv :).

everythingisokaustralia
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everythingisokaustralia

I would rather listen to the majority of scientists on climate change than those with a political agenda like many on this site, because that would be the most ‘scientific’ approach. But I also believe the jury is still out on longer projections because of cyclical events like earth tilt etc. that occur over millions of years, a concept incomprehensible to humans. So on we go with our petty games while the gods look down and laugh.

Xword
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Xword

Well, according to today’s Faufax report it’s now official … Sydney’s benign autumn weather is conclusive evidence of global warming, pointing out it’s the hottest since 1910! Makes you wonder what the excuse for the unseasonal temperatures was back then over a century ago …

terrestre
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terrestre

Hmmm, call me greedy Viv but may I request an `encore` please, when time permits* :))! More edu nature articles by a knowing gent , is inspirational , and encouragingly optimistic.

ThePragmatist
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ThePragmatist

Oddly I was recently in St Petersburg and Helsinki and it was unusually warm even for them. I think 27 degrees today. This is the aberration global warming fraudsters and global warming gullible fools use in their argument.

ThePragmatist
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ThePragmatist

Viv. The global warming hoaxers like to use an aberration in the weather when it supports their argument. When there is record cold they remain silent. They refuse to accept the average of hot and cold. A recent release by an SA government minister stated shack owners and houses near the sea damaged by rising sea levels will have to pay for it themselves. I recently checked and I have not seen any noticeable sea level rise in my area dating back from 1960. Totally unchanged.

admrich
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admrich

Just a quick comment about the phrase “global sea levels are rising very gently”..

Haven’t measured/observed Sea-level rise in most locations around the world for the last 80-150 years or so been reasonably constant & unchanged making Global Sea-level rise similarly constant & relatively unchanged?

dusty
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dusty

Flanagan the man is a total idiot, where did he get his degree from? who taught this fool?

dusty
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dusty

Good on you Viv, totally agree.

HanseaticKid
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HanseaticKid

Thanks Viv for a further thoughtful paper in your lecture series Unit 1.1 : “What makes the world go around”. You’re a real gem. And I particularly like the reference “climate witch doctors” – with your kind permission, I’d like to use that in future…it has a nice ring to it and beautifully describes the likes of flim flam Flanagan.

terrestre
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terrestre

Kevin Ruds son was in the D Tele smoking a cigar .. I read ages ago.. it was the then PM`s, son and it was not ramped up or .. draggggGGed out .. it`s a so what imo. Fluff topic.(I do not mean your view Trumby) but they exaggerate these media when* it suits them.. so I use that as a known example.Comparison.It get`s a tad lop sided when that is seen as exacerbating..for no real reason by some in media.Not all just some.

terrestre
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terrestre

It is extremely irrational to place humans well being as it NOW stands at ultimate risk based on a hypothesis of maybe perhaps,and making many struggle unproductively due to a few changing all the KNOWN reliable goalposts(archived known reputable reports and findings), to suit a very selfish greed agenda, so we could debate that if you like enrique.

enrique
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enrique

Whilst most respondents seem to simply equate climate change to a new tax and willing to embrace any opinion that supports this, Viv’s article is not fact, it is not based on any hard evidence it is merely conjecture with no reference or explanation for changing and unprecedented climatic events, other than it is natural occurrence. Now if you were living in Newtok, Alaska watching your town cascade into the Bearing Sea, you may be a little pessimistic, now that is a fact. The paradigm shift I have noticed, is commentators no longer say climate change is fabricated by scientists… Read more »

Ozymandium
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Ozymandium

I am delighted that Viv has the ability to give people plain FACTS in plain English. I just hope he can get through to our brain-washed kids and their brain-washed teachers before it is too late.

terrestre
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terrestre

A Poem for Mr Forbes titled `Secret of Blue Amber`. You would know of Earth`s true clues,Gracious skies, fabulous blues; Mineral gifts,and sparkling skies,Gaseous realms of nights delight! There is earths pocket, wrapped deep in soils.. blue amber magic History foiled.Captured within ,past capsule sealed..Fragments of now ,yet aged life-forms concealed! Clasped safe from air, centuries old, Aching to share truths untold~Hues of Lapis Lazuli and moon;Mother -of-pearl like glowing festoon.Ribbons of wealth from tree dripped wound, Gifted to you ..with delicate mood.Might it prove beetle?, Hover-fly?, ant?Whatever it holds , it is carbons from plant!~ by terrestre 21/5/2014.(to Viv… Read more »

Legendts
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Legendts

Another great, informative article. Thanks Viv.

Lillibet
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Lillibet

It’s all about perception. Indeed we did bag Gillard for the lie she told and the backflip deal with her Greens such was her obsession with power. Maybe Abbott and Hockey could see our country going down the drain and lied to get into power so they could stop the rot. A lie is a lie and liars can’t be locked up. When the pension was invented it wasn’t meant to pay for ciggies, beer, car maintenance, holidays, internet isp, mobile phones (or landline phones). It was just a small income so older people beyond working capacity would not be… Read more »

Oigle
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Oigle

Naaah! That can’t be right!
CO2 TAX will FIX Everythink!
WassamaterwifU?
Prof. David SUZUKY says so – so THERE!

Wobblyone
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Wobblyone

We saw the vast majority of “whacko’s” who support this iceberg shit today. They were marching against their free Uni education. Same old, same old… Socialist/Commos’ who are no doubt the next generation of ALP/Union garbage.

dante
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dante

Hi, What you say is fine and the other party did not do it but if this party is so different and good for us why don’t they Tax Apple and Google and Microsoft as they only pay .7% tax, and Mining Companies where the real tax is instead of putting petrol up to pay for roads and doctors fees up to start a research fund and tell us it’s to fix the Budget Blowout from the other Crowd. Then why don’t they take all the Old Prime Ministers and Ex Premiers etc off welfare and cut down on the… Read more »

Lauretta
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Lauretta

I feel the same Ubbiebubbie. I have also remained silent recently and and uncertain of what to think and say. You have very much expressed my thoughts.

Hunter02
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Hunter02

Old but true 1990 video in conjunction with Vivs informative and truthful summation of Climate Change alarmism and mans hapless attempts to alter natural forces . This title of this particular video is “The greenhouse conspiracy.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Btd6L31ZYg

vecchio
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vecchio

Thank you Viv. I read that it would take about three hundred and seventy thousand cubic kilometers of melted ice, to raise the oceans by one meter. Aside from very substantial melting of the Antarctic ice sheet, could this occur and over what time frame is it even possible?

Ruprick
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Ruprick

Just more left-wing stealing. Perfect for the ALP and snoots – theft at its best.

terrestre
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terrestre

Nods, Thank-you for the Edu You share Mr V.Forbes*.

hardenupaustralia
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hardenupaustralia

It’s a bit like chicken little the sky is falling. What a load of wank.

RobertDeFrancesch
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RobertDeFrancesch

You can put ice in a full glass of water and wait. The ice will melt. The water will not overflow. Ice is 90% of water density, so it floats. However when it melts, it does not take up any more room. Only ice on land, Greenland and Antarctica matters.

RobertDeFrancesch
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RobertDeFrancesch

The other parts of the arctic melting never mentioned are a) that it is far warmer in the North and b) melting Arctic sea ice cannot raise water levels. As for temperature, the Arctic can reach 25C. St. Petersberg at 60N can easily go above 30C and the sun is up all day and the place is very humid. The ice all melts of course. However in the Antarctic winter is -50C and 80km/hr winds from the West. Summer is -30C and 50km/hr winds from the West. Add a few degrees and nothing changes except the sea ice, the floating… Read more »

bobbyfoo
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bobbyfoo

The “warming wankers ” have lost all credability ( IF they ever had any ). One benefit of the print media being in freefall, we can use the delete button or remote any time the wankers appear.

RobertDeFrancesch
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RobertDeFrancesch

In travelling through Siberia, across 12,000km of Russia and Ukraine in Summer, there was no snow. It was all gone. However in winter it is buried. The same in Canada and Europe, so why aren’t the seas rising every year and drowning Scotland or Copenhagen while the little mermaid sits on the rock. We have massive ‘climate change’ every year and the seas do not rise. Is someone pulling our legs?

RobertDeFrancesch
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RobertDeFrancesch

As Ian Plimer shows in his books, Antarctic ice and Arctic are in balance. If one is at record lows, the other is at record highs. It has been this way since we found Antarctica and mapped it, so more than 100 years. Of course no one can explain it and warmists are always surprised, especially the Ship of Fools. Clearly they did not beleive that the satellites saw, did not believe the people who lived there and cost us millions to prove themselves wrong.

BR549
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BR549

Off topic, however……..
Federal Treasurer Joe Hockey is suing Fairfax Media for defamation over a series of articles about a fund-raising forum that offered access to the Treasurer in exchange for donations of thousands of dollars.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/joe-hockey-claims-fairfax-articles-defamed-him-20140521-38nn2.html#ixzz32JbKaj2c
About time someone hit back.

Ducktracy.
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Ducktracy.

Scientist On PBS: Lock Up Politicians Who Question Climate Change [VIDEO]

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/20/scientist-on-pbs-lock-up-politicians-who-question-climate-change-video/#ixzz32Ja8ijhR

PeterE
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PeterE

I’ve been watching teh new COSMOS with Neiol Degrasse Tyson. Not bad but he’s certainly a climate change nutter. He sneaks in whenever possible how we’re changing the climate. But tempers it with us humans are resilient and can adapt. I guess he still enjoys his NASA job. Didn’t a few ex NASA scientists recently denounce man made climate change?

bomber47
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bomber47

Obviously Viv, you don’t stand to make billions from the “Global Warming” frenzy.

Saddlepop
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Saddlepop

Thanks again Viv for your straight forward approach to this infernal argument about global warming. No histrionics, no sensationalism, just matter of fact reporting and reflecting. Shouldn’t be too hard for anyone to take on board your salient argument, but alas you just aren’t popular reading in the warmist circles. Thanks all the same because you introduce prior evidences that I in turn can introduce to the faithful warmists that come my way.

Matt12
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Matt12

There’s so much ice being created that great lumps break off and float away, and the warming wankas point and say look, the ice is melting.