Should dredging of a silted-up port disturb some natural sand and mud, the green suburban set will shout “stop ocean pollution” and this message will be megaphoned by their loyal green media.

These hypocrites should check their own backyards.

City dwellers daily flush millions of litres of human wastes, drugs, anti-biotics, detergents, food scraps, chemicals, medical/dental wastes and other un-mentionables down their sewers. The extracted sewer liquids are often disposed into rivers and the ocean and seep into groundwater, and the solid wastes pollute land somewhere.

These same armchair environmentalists are happy for their enviro-police to harass a grazier who dares to harvest some mulga for his starving stock, while they live happily in cities where the natural environment has been totally obliterated by roads, railways, factories, housing estates, schools, hospitals, car parks, cinemas and shopping centres.

They shout “air pollution” because a clean efficient coal-fired power station releases the gases of life (carbon dioxide and water vapour) into the atmosphere of the open country-side. However trees, crops and pasture near the power station will grow more luxuriantly using the extra carbon dioxide plant food and, in the process, will release more oxygen to the atmosphere. Residents in these areas enjoy healthy plants and atmosphere – the extra carbon dioxide is a benefit not a danger.

Things are different in crowded cities where “climate-smart” zealots try to force city dwellers to use combustible gas rather than clean electricity from coal in their cities and houses. They burn the gas in kitchen stoves and hot water systems, put gas heaters into sealed schoolrooms, burn diesel as they go shopping in their 4WDs, all the time adding combustion fumes to their environment and draining oxygen from these over-loaded city atmospheres. Carbon dioxide is heavier than air but it is usually dispersed quickly by wind or thermals or taken up by growing plants. However on a still day with poor air circulation, exhaust fumes including unburnt hydrocarbons can accumulate in urban basins thus reducing the oxygen content to unhealthy levels. This is real “air pollution”.
 
Then we have the water misers who demand that irrigators surrender water rights for “environmental flows”, force food producers to pay full price for their water and oppose every proposal for new water supply dams. But as soon as Climate Commissioner Flannery predicted permanent water shortages for their cities, mega-millions were spent on desalinisation plants and water recycling to ensure urban environmentalists could keep their long showers, wash their cars and keep their lawns green. (Naturally the alarmist forecasts failed, and the expensive desalination plants are now mothballed.)

It is time for these environmental hypocrites to apply the same standards to themselves that they seek to impose on others.

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terrestre

You are a good man Viv. Thank- you for being you and genuinely caring, in an educational manner.It is comforting to know responsible folk like you are helping balance rationale.

jacksprat
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jacksprat

Before the clearing laws in NSW we could run 1 sheep to 10 acres comfortably, now we are lucky to run 1/4 to a 100 acres.

jacksprat
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jacksprat

Do the CC idiots realise that as there has been 2 volcanic eruptions in Greenland that the ground is warming before the eruptions.

TonyH
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TonyH

Right thats it! First Gillarse and her ugly face, now this prune faced peice of shit! What are you doing to us! I’m off for a run!

Daveinoz
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Daveinoz

GLOBAL WARMING

Half truths, hyperventilation, and hyperbole run amok … fear mongering magnifies any threat.

johnno
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johnno

alpinist – not only Frauderry, but also I believe Gore bought up big on the waterfront.
Albert – I am sure that when / if your 3.5B year prediction comes true, Milne will blame Howard and Abbott.

johnno
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johnno

It was largely Frauderry’s “expert predictions” of perpetual drought that precipitated this ridiculous spate of white elephant desalt plants.

johnno
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johnno

You forget perhaps that the Great Religion of Global Warming has been upturned by the new Religion of Climate Change……….this despite the FACT that climate, by its very nature, always changes!

johnno
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johnno

Viv – you are a scientist. I wonder if you would comment on an issue that has had me thinking for quite a while, and a lot more recently since Sen Milne raised it again in another alarmist outburst this week. In basic primary school science / physics we learned that water finds its own level – FACT?? Alarmists are claiming that one (or a small group of) Pacific island is being inundated by “alarming rising sea levels” yet other islands and groups in the same vast ocean do not seem to be suffering these same rises. Is this scientifically… Read more »

KILROYWASHERE
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KILROYWASHERE

Aughhh! Christeen Mildew !
Now you’ve put me right orf Me Dinner…

Cosmik Debris
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Cosmik Debris

And the precedent set on union wages for these ‘special’ projects continues to flow on to our non-benefit.

terrestre
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terrestre

Some one `locked` up those flood files(findings and Investigation results) for 30 yrs apparently..? Wonder why? it was in the Australian e-paper.. I find that outrageous and not FOI.

veritas
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veritas

No difficulty to lodge a claim for flood damage UTW, just queue, fill out paperwork and wait, not once but as many times as flooding occurs, My friend in Ingham and their friends in surrounding areas have been affected several times, no investigation, just how much damage has occurred, here’s your money!!! Same down here in Melbourne when the hailstorm happened, whole roofs were replaced, new cars for old, it’s not just a Queensland phenonenom.

Capt.Keith
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Capt.Keith

Capt. Keith. Its the truth. The Greenies want un-needed wind power at the expense of the trees.

Albert
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Albert

The IPCC says oceans MAY rise up to 7 inches by 2100, NOT 1 metre. In about 3.5 billion years the Sun will consume the Earth, how will the greenies save the planet when that happens ?

Albert
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Albert

CC alarmists all over the world want their jobs returned, free travel and meetings.
They preach the ”science” of CC, but a science requires experimentation to prove it’s a science. There is NO record of experiments with CC and there can be NO record of CC experiments as it’s not a science

There is NO science of CC
There is ONLY a historical record of CC

The IPCC disagrees with all the alarmist preaching
They want their jobs back, they want to feel they are saving the planet, they are too dumb for a real job

vecchio
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vecchio

The polar ice is not melting so where will the water come from, can he answer that? No bloody way and still he gets an audience from people who should have more sense.

vecchio
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vecchio

When will our “leaders” speak the truth that Flannery is a discredited charlatan? Maybe Jackie will be the one but I’d rather not be lead by her, however!

Lever_94
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Lever_94

Sky News is reporting ” Australian’s March for climate action” tomorrow. What a load of shit. These maggots should be arrested, but I suppose they just poor simple folks that would believe anything.

Albert
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Albert

The way Bush immediately came out as the apologist for muslims makes me rethink this matter. Bush acted as if he knew

Hotrocks
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Hotrocks

I saw tomfoolery on tv a week ago begging for money. This is a good sign.

Gianna
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Gianna

The Greens are steeped in hypocrisy. Just look at the latest idiocy the Moreland council tried to foist on car owners, by placing bollards along a bike lane, while they drive in their cars paid for by rate payers.

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Deecee

Viv, do you know much about the “new” membrane technology touted as being at an engineering level for manufacturer already? Uses salt water for it’s fuel and the O2 and H2 are extracted via the membrane it is forced through somehow. i believe that it works on brackish and mineral water as well as sea water, so it has the whole of Aussie covered in terms of fuel availability

Cosmik Debris
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Cosmik Debris

Flannery’s recommendation led to many desal plants being built. A prolonged drought that is cyclical (learn from history, not manipulated computer models). Refusal to build more dams.

igiveup
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igiveup

Have you noticed the Green vote is concentrated in the in the inner city areas? I’m sure they think their meat is raised in cellophane bags. Wouldn’t know a cow from a canary.

Lever_94
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Lever_94

Either way Flannery was wrong.

Beegle
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Beegle

The one that gets me is when they say the sea level is rising on some skimpy little island, and Obama said that somewhere over there has risen by 300 mm. That’s defying the laws of physics. It can’t rise anywhere without everywhere doing the same.

Dynamite
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Dynamite

In a nutshell!

bazza43
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bazza43

Well said as always Viv.Keep it up.

DoubtfulJohn
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DoubtfulJohn

Just to throw a spanner into the rising sea level debate, could it be attributable to the cooling and shrinking of earths molten core, the contraction of the earth reducing surface area, whilst a finite amount of water still needs to be accommodated?

theos
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theos

to borrow: a bonfire of ironies.

Minkers
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Minkers

I always look forward to your articles, Viv. Thank you.

PietdeGroot
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PietdeGroot

UTW, I believe that the voting public will see the light that minor parties are irrelevant to progress, as is Labia.

Ducktracy.
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Ducktracy.
PietdeGroot
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PietdeGroot

Panda, how could you!! Think of the cost to send her down the Amazon !!!!! It will be far cheaper (nay! I will gladly pay her airfare to the Daintree River and set her adrift there personally, with a little of enticement from the denizens that inhabit that river.

Panda
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Panda

Grandma Milly is a typical Enviro Basket Case. Let’s do a Moses with and pop her in a Reed Basket and set her sail, say down the Amazon………..without her usual adoring Media Cretin Pack.

ThePragmatist
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ThePragmatist

Meanwhile we get the scary news item about sea levels rising by 2100 and destroying most of our coast line. This has been going on for eons. The 12 Apostles that used to exist along the Victorian coast and the great ocean road have come down to 8. We have seen houses built on cliffs fall into the sea. Meanwhile the beaches where I grew up 50 years ago remain unchanged. We have record ice in the Antacrtica this year. No global warming for 15 years. Why do these people continue with the lie? How much money have they got… Read more »

aussieexpat
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aussieexpat

Spot on as usual Viv.

OldRooster
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OldRooster

Might need a crowbar UTW.

OldRooster
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OldRooster

Other (combustion) pollutants (NB not including leakage and processing)
Natural gas produces far lower amounts of sulfur dioxide and nitrous oxides than any other hydrocarbon fuels. The other pollutants due to natural gas combustion are listed below in parts per million (ppm):

Carbon monoxide – 40 ppm
Sulfur dioxide – 1 ppm
Nitrogen oxide – 92 ppm
Particulates – 7 ppm

@screwedtenancy
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@screwedtenancy

The day Christine Milne walks or rides a bicycle to work, and stops using cars and jet aircraft, is the day I might believe what she spruiks. Until then it’s just hypocrisy.

Daveinoz
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Daveinoz

Some good points raised there Viv !

Daveinoz
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Daveinoz

Never forget that the Greens are really communists.

They only want to do us economic damage and cause us social unrest …

Journalistssuck
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Journalistssuck

I remember a few years ago, when the Vic Govt started dredging Port Phillip Bay. All the stupid, ignorant greens started protesting, the sky was going to fall, all sea life would be killed — blah blah blah. Well, blow me down with a feather, just a few years after the dredging, and what do you know: fishing is excellent, there is NO damage to the sea floor.Nothing these clowns predicted actually happened — what a bunch of dickheads

PeterE
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PeterE

Can’t we shoot Greenies? They are a plague on society

terrestre
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terrestre

Yes Mr Forbes.You are correct imo.Again.Thank-you kindly.