When it comes to scholars of Islam, there are few who can match Mark Durie. I thought I knew a bit about Islam having written a book on the subject. However, when I went to listen to Mark speak, I came away feeling like a rank amateur.

Mark wrote The Third Choice which is the absolute definitive book on the subject of dhimmitude. It details the horrific suffering of non-Muslims under Islam with eye watering clarity, depth and detail.

He has just finished a new book on the subject of the onset of violence from the perspective of The Koran. This one promises to turn understanding of Islam on its head, shattering (amongst other things) the notion that The Koran is in any way derived from The Bible.

Smart people have known this for many years, but this book promises to provide a bulletproof intellectual foundation which will further destroy the claims that Muslims make about their religion.

Whilst this should be blindingly obvious to anyone with an IQ greater than their shoe size, Durie’s academic brilliance will deal a devastating blow to anyone trying to argue otherwise.

The following article by Mark, lays out one of the central themes of the book. I consider it to be of incredible significance which is why I wanted to share it with Pickering Post readers. Please share it widely.

The Problem of Peace vs. Violence

By Mark Durie

It is widely recognized that, on the topic of violence, the Qur’an speaks with more than one voice. Some verses speak for peace, and others for war.

The conventional explanation is that the difference hinges on the migration of the early Muslim community from Mecca to Medina: in Mecca Muslims were persecuted while Muhammad and the Qur’an preached non-violence and tolerance, but in Medina an Islamic state was established, and Muhammad gathered an army, leading it to triumph in battle against non-believers.

A Conventional Explanation

A conventional Islamic theological interpretation is that in Mecca Muhammad and his community were weak, vulnerable and persecuted, so Allah wisely commended patience and forbearance.

However, when the Muslims power was established in Medina they were commanded to fight for the cause of Allah, ushering in the triumphant advance of the religion.

It is indisputable that there is a progression from peace to violence in the Qur’an. But is the conventional explanation for that shift supported by the text of the Qur’an itself? Does this explanation make the best sense of the Qur’an?

A Different Story to be Told

In my recently published book, The Qur’an and its Biblical Reflexes, I argue that the traditional explanation is based on a misreading.

Setting aside the whole Mecca-Medina narrative (for a whole host of reasons), I argue that if we read the Qur’an with an ear for changes in its theology around the transition between the (so-called) ‘Meccan’ and ‘Medinan’ verses, a different story emerges. This is a story about a crisis of faith and how it was successfully resolved.

To understand what was happening when the message of the Qur’an changed, we need to focus on the message itself.

The earlier chapters of the Qur’an warn hearers that if they do not repent, they will be punished in this life and the next. Not only does the fire of hell await them, but in this life a ‘nearer punishment’ will come down on their heads in the form of a destructive act of God.

Many stories are reported in the earlier passages of the Qur’an which tell how Allah destroyed past generations of people who ignored warnings brought by messengers, by violent interventions such as flood, earthquake, windstorm or fire from heaven.

Alongside these dire warnings, the Qur’an also promises success in this life and the next to those who repent and believe.

How did people receive this doomsday preaching? Not all that well. The disbelievers began to mock the Qur’anic ‘Messenger’ (named in the Qur’an as Muhammad, or ‘praised one’), asking when this great disaster was going to come.

‘Bring us what you promised’ (Sura 7:70), they would say, complaining that it was all taking far too long. The Qur’an wryly comments that ‘they seek to hurry the evil’ (Sura 13:6), but what they were really saying was that the Messenger had made it all up.

The disbelievers also mocked the Messenger in many other ways, which is reported in surprising detail in the Qur’an (e.g. Sura 37:36).

A Crisis of Faith

How were the believers taking this? The Qur’an reports that the Messenger and his band of followers were getting anxious.

Responding to this anxiety, the Qur’an counsels patience and emphasizes that the Messenger is only a warner, so he is responsible for nothing but the clear delivery of the message (Sura 29:18). The timing belongs to Allah.

For a while, things are not looking good for the Qur’anic believers. In addition to the mockery, they are being ill-treated, and some are even being expelled from their homes.

There are references to the Messenger suffering distress and doubt (e.g. Sura 10: 46, 65; 11:17), although he is comforted with the thought that past messengers had also suffered from feelings of hopelessness (Sura 12:110).

Some believers are tempted to turn away (Sura 21:109, 16:82) and some are giving to that temptation (Sura 13:25). The success they had all been promised seems as elusive as the punishment of disbelievers is delayed.

This was fundamentally a crisis of faith, a theological crisis. In The Qur’an and its Biblical Reflexes I call it an Eschatological Crisis. The very existence of the movement of believers was coming under threat. Waiting for God’s ‘nearer punishment’ could only go on for so long.

When everything keeps continuing on as normal, a doomsday prophet’s authority begins to ebb away.

The Theological Transition: The Crisis Is Resolved through Violence

The crisis is resolved in a way which the preceding revelations has not anticipated. It is announced to the believers that the promised and long-awaited act of punishment had arrived in the form of violence by human hands: ‘fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands’ (8:17).

It is not to be by earthquake or fire from heaven, but by the swords of the believers that God’s hand would bring the nearer punishment.

Referring to a battle, as if to reassure believers, Allah tells them that it was not they, but Allah who killed, and they did not throw spears, but Allah threw them (Sura 18:17).

To describe this violence, the Qur’an also uses language which previously had characterized acts of God and the fire of Hell: it is called a ‘painful punishment’ and a ‘tasting’ (i.e. of what will come to them in the Fire).

The pattern of Allah punishing past generations by earthquake, flood, storm or fire had previously been described as the unchanging ‘path of Allāh’; after the crisis, the believer’s fighting comes to be described as striving (jihād) in ‘the path of Allah’.

I term the shift in thought which resolves the crisis, the Theological Transition, so the division in the Qur’an is not between Meccan and Medinan suras, but between pre- and post-transitional suras.

By embracing violence, the Messenger and his followers move on from passively waiting for a future divine punishment, to become active agents of divine retribution in the present.

In essence, the switch from peace to war is not about defensive fighting, nor even a reaction to persecution. It is a validation of the Messenger’s doomsday message, which saves the Qur’anic movement and its Messenger from sectarian oblivion.

This explanation for the turn to violence makes a whole lot better sense of the actual text of the Qur’an than the conventional account. In The Qur’an and its Biblical Reflexes I document in great detail the many theological and rhetorical adjustments which the Qur’an’s makes to support and validate this shift.

For example, after the turn to violence we find that the Qur’an no longer reports that disbelievers are calling for divine punishment to be ‘hurried’ (since it had already arrived).

Consequences of the Transition

One of the most striking adjustments after the Theological Transition is a change in the understanding of the role of messengers.

Before the Transition, it had been repeatedly emphasized that past messengers were just ‘warners’, whose only task was to deliver the message.

However, after the Transition, messengers become the leaders of the fighting faithful (‘how many a prophet has fought, and with him many thousands’ Sura 3:146), and stories of past messengers are fashioned to reflect this new reality.

A change also takes place in the position and status of the Qur’anic Messenger, as he is now one who must be obeyed rather than just one whose message is to be believed.

It is retrospectively asserted that this was always true of all previous messengers (‘we have only sent messengers to be obeyed’ Q4:64). In this way the messenger acquires what E. A. Rezvan has called ‘all-embracing personal power’. 

We can also note that these changes are problematic for the internal consistency of the Qur’an’s theology.

Although before the Transition the Qur’an had repeatedly asserted that there can never be a change in the ‘path of Allah’ (Sura 33:62; 35:43; 48:23), after the Transition there was a highly significant, indeed world-altering, change.

Why Didn’t Anyone See This Before?

The Qur’an is not an easy book to read for understanding.  Its suras (chapters) are not in any logical or chronological order, and within individual suras a wide variety of themes and ideas can be covered, in a flowing stream of thoughts which are not organized into an obvious rhetorical structure.

It can be very easy to miss things.  This also means that readers tend to be very dependent, when reading the Qur’an for understanding, on the standard narrative frame provided by the life of Muhammad. 

People see what their eye is directed to, and the conventional biographical frame tends to direct readers’ attention away from the inner theological development of the text, including the Eschatological Crisis. 

The biography of Muhammad directs us to read the Qur’an in the light of the fledgling Muslim community’s struggle for power in the face of rejection and hostility. 

In this way, the conventional biographical frame pushes the theological frame of the Qur’an to one side, obscuring it from view.

I came to the understanding outlined here as the result of a deliberate decision to make sense of the Qur’an in its own terms, without ANY reliance upon the biography of Muhammad (with which I was nevertheless very familiar). 

After coming to the conclusions reported here, I did however find my analysis confirmed in an excellent book by David Marshall, God, Muhammad, and the Unbelievers. 

Key aspects of what I was seeing Marshall had already discerned, and I give him a lot of credit in my book.

Conclusion

In summary, the ‘inner’ theological history told by the Qur’an itself is not that of a persecuted community which found triumph through migration and state-formation, from where it took up arms against its persecutors.

That may be the story told by biographical materials about Muhammad gathered together centuries after the Qur’an was written, but it is not the story the Qur’an tells.

Although there is persecution and triumph in the Qur’an, a more careful reading of the Qur’an’s text reveals a movement which was faltering under the weight of the non-arrival of a prophesied doomsday scenario.

This movement was then saved – and transformed – by a shocking and epoch-making announcement that the swords of believers were to be considered an act of God. The rest, as they say, is history.

This was first published by the Interface Institute.
To give to support Mark Durie’s writing, please visit https://markdurie.com/give/.

Dr. Mark Durie is an academic, human rights activist, Anglican pastor, a Shillman-Ginsburg Writing Fellow at the Middle East Forum, and Adjunct Research Fellow of the Arthur Jeffery Centre for the Study of Islam at Melbourne School of Theology.

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“By embracing violence, the Messenger and his followers move on from passively waiting for a future divine punishment, to become active agents of divine retribution in the present.” Muhammad probably pinched that idea from the Old Testament, i.e. : “Woe to the Assyrian, the rod of my [God’s] anger, in whose hand is the club of my wrath! I send him against a godless nation [Israel gone astray], I dispatch him against a people who anger me, to sieze loot and snatch plunder, to trample them down like mud in the streets…” Isaiah 10:5-6 The “Woe to the Assyrian” part… Read more »

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Done Hunter2. Thanks for putting this up

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New Post Up.

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Yeah and the Jewish Money Power sent idiots like King Richard and his nobles over to the Middle East as indebted blood sacrifices. Real hero’s, just like today’s idiot soldiers of the West. Like today, the mission was to kill true Arab Semites and get their idiot selves killed and maimed. And when they got back to merry old England the Jews owned all their properties and all were in debt. Just like today.

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Leave the Muslims alone. Most are true Semites and God luvs em. They support the mega nuclear family and love lots of children. They keep their women honest by enshrouding them and giving them good beatings. So stop being anti Semitic. The alternative to a good, hormonally/sexually charged Muslim woman are Sailor’s “delirious, feminist, barren women” like Gillard, Cash, Trad, Pibersek, Steggal and so on. As Adam Weishaupt’s Illuminati planned, lunatic, criminal women like Trad and Gillard would control the destruction of the White alpha male. In the West, women are the great destroyers of civilisation and their promiscuity and… Read more »

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New Video : Democrats Sending Mixed Messages About Climate
Posted on June 14, 2019 by tonyheller (5 minutes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=OuGwIHeUg2c

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Watch the Money – Billionaires Exit Hong Kong as China Fist Looms….
Posted on June 14, 2019 by sundance
More indications of the growing financial exit to avoid the predictable response from totalitarian moves by Beijing. [Backstory – Backstory] Now we see reports growing of mass financial moves out of Hong Kong, as billionaires see the looming shadow of Red Dragon closing in…

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/06/14/watch-the-money-billionaires-exit-hong-kong-as-china-fist-looms/

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If you have to hire a social media ‘expert’ to improve your popularity online, just maybe there is something wrong with you and yours.
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My wife told me to stop acting like a FLAMINGO.

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make up your own mind…the Scumo Libs and Nats promised responsible Government for Australians….Scumo’s Energy Minister, Angus Failure (aka The Slasher) makes a public announcement last week ;’ Australia has run out of coal’!!!…now do you believe him?…..well apparently the Chinese, Korean and Japs dont..they have all renewed their contracts for unlimited coal well into the future.and Australian coal mines have millions of years of supply – to export (its a bit like our millions of years supply of Natural Gas – which the Australian Government generously handed to Chevron for free – FOREVER!!! – another offshore tax free multinational… Read more »

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We are hitting the headlines in New York. Major manufacturers in Australia such as Orica has previously slammed major gas companies’ attitude towards domestic gas supply and warned that gas-intensive manufacturers could close unless domestic gas shortages and high prices were addressed. “This situation continues to deteriorate and should be an unacceptable situation for all levels of government given Australia’s natural abundance of gas resources,” an Orica spokesman said.—SMH We as domestic users should be having much cheaper prices, its our Australian gas, and this matter must be addressed by Scomo. “”AUSTRALIA FACES ENERGY CRISIS AS MANUFACTURERS THREATEN TO EXIT… Read more »

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Scene: Qld Governments Cabinet Meeting. Palletshed” Juvenile crime is on the increase and because we haven’t spent any money on building any for 20 years, and our Juvie Detention Centres are at maximum capacity, what are we going to do? Tragic: Don’t look at me I haven’t got any dough all mine is tied up on my favourite Cross River Rail project which is for a handful of my constituents to allow me to stay in Parliament. Youth Minister Di Farmer: I’ve got this great idea. Let’s tell the Magistrates and Judges to not send these little crims to jail… Read more »

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Albanese picks on Setka to improve Labor’s image. Katrina Grace Kelly in today’s Oz. This week has been a hoot, hasn’t it? I just love it when Labor politicians get their heads on the television and pretend to beat up on their union masters. Watching Anthony Albanese and Kristina Keneally hook into John Setka is like watching a pair of chihuahuas trying to take down a bull mastiff. In my opinion, before Setka, the Victorian secretary of the Construction Forestry Maritime Mining Energy Union, held the title of Australia’s naughtiest union official, Joe McDonald from the West Australian branch was… Read more »

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21%Dan Bongino
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O/T sorry,
I hope Sydney never gets any sizable earth tremor, it seems there may be a few more badly constructed high rise buildings popping up! (or should that be popping down?)
https://10daily.com.au/news/australia/a190614paoiv/sydney-building-evacuated-after-concerns-over-movement-and-stability-20190614

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Australia: Muslims ram police car and threaten cops with knife and axe, cops say not terror related

“The two men, aged 19 and 30, converted to Islam in prison and are low-level people of interest to counter-terrorism police.” “The incident is not being treated as a terrorism-related attack.”

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/06/australia-muslims-ram-police-car-and-threaten-cops-with-knife-and-axe-cops-say-not-terror-related

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Australia: Kmart bans words “Jesus” and “church” at photo printing kiosks, “Islam” and “Koran” OK

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/06/australia-kmart-bans-words-jesus-and-church-at-photo-printing-kiosks-islam-and-koran-ok

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HEZBOLLAH UK TERRORIST PLOT KEPT SECRET AS BRITISH CONTINUE APPEASING RISING IRAN AGGRESSION (Melanie Phillips) A few days ago, Britain’s Daily Telegraph revealed that in 2015 the British authorities had uncovered a Hezbollah terrorist plot. The key point was that this had been kept secret until now. In a bomb factory on the outskirts of London, a total of three metric tonnes of ammonium nitrate was discovered — more than was used in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people — stashed in ice packs. This was apparently no rogue plot, but part of an international Hezbollah operation… Read more »

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WIKIPEDIA HAS A FORKED TONGUE.

When you go to Wikipedia and type in “Infowars”, you are treated to a pack of lies.

You see this :

“InfoWars is a far-right American conspiracy theory and fake news website.

It is not far right. It is only far right if viewed from a Communist perspectiive.

It is not conspiracy theory. Alex may get a few things wrong (pioneers can) but most of his coverage proves correct.

It is not fake news. CBN etc are fake news and are widely recognized as such.

Wikipedia is a Communist lying rag.

Wicked pedia.

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Science has a place but it is limited.

Science is sophisticated logic .. nothing else.

Logic cannot penetrate anything deep.

Logic is basic and is not a road map of life.

It never was and never will be.

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Very edifying article, Harry! This makes great sense, in fact. Since beginning studies of Mo’s political ideology (masquerading as a ‘religion’) there was a human piece missing that made him turn from wanting to be like Jesus, to the worst of the worst. This explains it. He decided to become the apocolypse of which he warned rather than waiting and losing more credibility.

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Freemasonry and Jewish Mysticism (Kabbalah)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61siNSM_edI

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Freemasonry in Light of the Bible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN49lsoTBy8&t=1s

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I don’t know what world Pelican lives in, but to insinuate that the planes that flew into the World Trade Centres were fake, says a lot about his/her mind set.

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Some bimbo who should be at home polishing the silver and feeding the chooks writes that Israel Folau is “disgraced” for quoting the Gospel. Probably a rug muncher.

“Disgraced rugby star Israel Folau has reportedly met with league club Brisbane Broncos in an attempt to resurrect his career, according to Triple M.”

https://apple.news/A2IuUC3L3S3Wz0Aoj3U1D5g

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On Bob Hawke,

I met him once, one on one.

I said something he didn’t like and experienced what many before have .. that almost demonic glare and fury …

“THAT IS BULLSH#T !!!!” he whispered into my ear … well, not exactly whispered …

At which point his minders asked me to leave.

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We almost lost Black Pigeon Speaks. YouTube deleted his whole channel with half a million subscribers then reversed that decision after pushback. This was the last video he put out before being banned. https://youtu.be/uDQaerd0KZ0 Here’s a couple of further clips for those interested in knowing who controls us. https://youtu.be/bH-nBcrTwYI and this one https://youtu.be/TWj7CjZwR9o I would emplore the leftists on these pages to watch these videos and reflect on who they’re really fighting for.

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Islam and charity? There is nothing charitable in having your head lopped off, being blown to bits by suicide bombers, stoning and burning to death those that oppose Islam, female genital mutilation, oppession of women, throwing gays off rooftops. Islam is not a Charity, yet our resident lefties are in a long lasting relationship…….. that is until it comes back to bite them. https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/06/12/ap-praises-caliphate-seeking-islamists-in-indonesia-for-charitable-work/

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Fuckit…..I tipped Richmond last night and the Hawks tonight and both lost………………………….. I`m gunna go to bed and cry myself to sleep…………..

Hopefully Trumpy will have some good spy gate Russia news tomorrow…….See yas all.

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Little Jewish boy and Muslim boy were talking. Muslim boy says, “I’m at the age where I’m going to be circumcised tomorrow.” Jewish boy says, “Well, I’ve already been circumcised.” Muslim boy says, “Did it hurt?” Jewish boy says, “Well, I couldn’t walk for 12 months.”

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I wonder what Waleed Wanker thinks of this?

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Oh Dear, Shirley not another one? Anyone know how the one at Homebush is holding up?
Thousands??????

Emergency tower evacuation as thousands of people are rushed from a high-rise apartment block after ‘movement’ was detected

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7141427/High-rise-apartment-block-Mascot-evacuated-movement-detected.html

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A dairy farmer fears he might have been targeted by animal rights activists after his shed caught fire. The fire burned down the shed and destroyed a front loader at Minko North dairy farm at Korunye, north of Adelaide on Friday about 12.30am. Police have labelled the fire ‘suspicious’ and are treating it as an act of arson. But the farm’s owner, Mike Borema, is taking it a step further and believes he knows who is responsible for the damage. “It does lean towards animal activists but I’ll wait and see on the police investigation,” he told 7News. Mr Borema… Read more »

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Jesus and Mohammed of Mecca were prophets and intermediaries, so we are told. Neither saw God or Allah, yet we are stupid enough to believe that their word was ‘gospel’.

Maybe I am an old cynic, but how intelligent people can swallow the Bible and the Koran , the chief ingredients of war through the ages, defies logic.

I have always believed that following both books is no more than a belief system, the herding of the flock to exercise control.

Is there a God? God only knows!

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If only Australians were as brave as these Hong Kongers arecomment image

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SUICIDE. Picking up on the subject of suicide (that was being discussed on page 2 because Premier Daniel Andrews is about to legalize suicide in Victoria .. a truly evil act on his part) … A very important point : The thought of committing suicide ALWAYS comes from the dark side. It NEVER comes from God or the soul. Suicide is a high crime in God’s eyes and He would never guide a soul to commit suicide, in any circumstance. It is always the dark side that feeds this thought, or “thought form”, into a person, often at a point… Read more »

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The Left truly hates the white race
Commie Kelty recalled Hawke after Tienamen Sq massacre on why he offered permanency to 40,000! Chinese students in Australia

“To thrust a knife thru the blood red stain on this nation – The White Australia Policy”!
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Albanese has been listed in the past as a member of the Fabian Society. “…………What Is The Long Term Goal Of The Fabian Society?: . As Marxists the Fabian Society are Globalists/multiculturalists. They support the creation of a 1% jewish master-race and a 99% mixed race, or multi racial, dumbed down race of corporate debt-slaves run by Marxist kapos. The Fabian Society were prime movers in shutting down Grammar Schools for Working Class Children in Britain – the cover story for this dumbing down was “anti-elitism”. Most Fabian Society members, like Diane Abbot Labour MP, send their children to expensive… Read more »

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Chopin: Dismissive, Anti-Semitic, and a ‘Poet of Sweet Sound’ Review by Tim Page – The Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/chopin-dismissive-anti-semitic-and-a-poet-of-sweet-sound/2019/01/25/b698725a-1e44-11e9-9145-3f74070bbdb9_story.html … And yet, within these limits and despite his ailments, Chopin wrote some perfect music. Has any other composer ever understood melancholy so completely? … In addition to his fame as a virtuoso, Chopin may have been the most adventurous harmonist of his time … Chopin is one of those masters whom one wouldn’t necessarily have enjoyed as company. He was removed and dismissive of most of his composer friends (including those who were vital supporters), and he harbored a deep strain… Read more »

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Persian Gulf Tanker Attack: Iran Guilty? False Flag? Cui Bono?

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Just as the prime minister of Japan was in an historic visit to Iran (the first since the 1979 revolution), a Japanese-owned tanker (and one other) was attacked in the Persian Gulf. US neocons are pointing the finger at Iran. Does it make sense to attack Japan in the midst of productive talks? Will the propaganda machine ramp up war talk?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4G8USEdhuY

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The truth be told: pelican and hooo bloody hum..at the Opera House today we witnessed a collection of the sort of ratbags and criminals and frauds which define so much of what is wrong with Australia.this is the speech that was rejected ‘..in commemoration of Bob Hawke..who was such an Aussie Patriot he used to note that he in fact wished he had been born a jew. Oddly enough the fact that Hawke and his Mate Bill the Dill both served the Rothschilds bank of Australia (on the RBA board)..the local arm of the Rothschild Jewish Central Bank mafia which… Read more »

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Aussies and Yanks……….. This is pretty funny but her Oz goes a bit over the top……….Shes super hot though……..

https://www.facebook.com/smilewithmarkian/videos/2715749201833501/

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Israeli military analysts admits: “Israel Can’t Win the Next War.”

June 03, 2019 / Gilad Atzmon

Ron Ben Yishai concludes that Israel is too weak “whether it is a war against Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria or all of them, we will not win!”

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https://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2019/6/3/israeli-military-analysts-admits-israel-cant-win-the-next-war

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…you are milking this man’s heroic attempt to knock some bloody sense into politicians who have refused to accept that Moslem immigration is death to our country.” Now a couple of devious individuals Senior. Citizen and Tigerbalm have tried to tie my words into supporting the actions of the mass murderer Brendan Tarrant. I don’t. The heroic attempt was as stated, but they saw fit to suggest to paint me as black as they could. This is what Concerned.Senior wrote : I know what sort of low life sort of guy you are, but I never expected it to be… Read more »

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Big: Nearly 1,700 Child Predators Behind Bars In Massive Operation By Trump’s DOJ
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