Whilst Israel Folau stands tall and strong, defending his religious beliefs against all comers, the Anglicans of New Zealand (soon to be renamed as Aotearoa) are bending over backwards (and possibly forwards) to accommodate Islam.

These Dhimmis believe that God exists. They also believe that if they are nice to Muslims by welcoming them into their country, that Muslims will be nice to them in return.

Lots of perfectly sane and rational people believe that God exists.

Our newest roving reporter was on hand to witness the cringeworthy performance when someone tried to question an Imam at one of these events. Wasn’t the whole point of interfaith to learn more about each other’s beliefs? Apparently not.

Please welcome Jane Harris on board. Feel free to disagree with her views but be respectful or we’ll wipe you like a dirty bottom.

Losing Faith in Interfaith

by Jane Harris

Who knew a piece of paper could be so dangerous that it could get someone booted out of an interfaith meeting? Were those in charge scared of paper cuts or the truth?

Having discovered an interest in interfaith and its potential for deception, I jumped at the chance to attend an interfaith meeting between an Imam and an Anglican Minister.

What struck me upon entering the room was the lack of diversity in the crowd, in particular, there was a distinct shortage of young white faces.

First to speak was the Imam who opened with well received jokes about being here to convert us all to Islam. His speech also contained comedic but nonetheless derogatory comments about greedy Jews wanting to “rule the world.”

He also made mention of teaching his son to follow in his footsteps and never give the church a cent. If this humour is an example of interfaith in action, then the church is indeed lost.

Both speakers were articulate and presented their perspectives well. However, on the whole the content was unremarkable and filled with watered down platitudes – much as I would have expected for an event such as this.

Only twenty minutes were set aside for a question & answer session. The opening ‘question’ was by an elderly man who stated that “I, with perhaps most of you here want to submit to God. I call myself a Muslim, I am an ordained Anglican Minister, but I am a Muslim because I submit to God, I submit to Allah”.

It seemed that he was offering more of a deluded statement than a question, but this appeared to be okay with those running the event.

Is Allah the God of the Bible?

In response to his statement I would like to offer this following quotation that irrefutably states that Christians and Muslims do not worship the same God.

“Christians worship one God in three persons: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. But Islam denies the Holy Trinity and worships a different deity called Allah who is not a Father and who has no son.
Since the religion found in the Bible teaches the Trinity, then it does not take a Ph.D. to see that Islam did not come from the Bible. Thus it is not the religion of the biblical prophets, apostles or Jesus.”

Robert A. Morey, 1996 Research and Education Foundation

A few questions later a gentleman stood up and politely proffered a document titled “The Muslim Declaration of Peaceful Intent” for the Imam to sign.

Having since read the document I perceive that it would serve to strengthen the interfaith dialogue, as by signing it the Imam would have denied all the violent verses of the Qur’an which order him to kill unbelievers.

Promising not to murder people shouldn’t be too onerous of a commitment – or am I missing something?
Unless of course, you considered the contents of the Koran to be the perfect word of your God. Now who would think such a thing?

I witnessed this document handed to both the Minister & Imam, but the Minister quickly put his hand out for the Imam’s copy and didn’t allow the verbal description of the document to be completed past the words “a renunciation of the Quran’s violent commands.”

The well-mannered gentleman was abruptly silenced at this point and then rapidly and fairly aggressively removed from the venue. Sources tell me that he did get two of the Muslim men who accompanied him out to sign the Declaration of Peaceful intent, which was pleasing to hear.

I noted that several members of the audience were recording proceedings at times, along with the official video camera running at the front.

I found it interesting that after the aforementioned interaction, that one of those people filming was asked to stop due to the possibility of it being used for “political purposes.”

I have received some of this footage and included it above; I’ll leave viewers to draw their own conclusions as to the political motives of both sides, if any.

At the beginning of the Q&A session it was stated that both the Minister & Imam were available to take questions.

I found it strange that the only questions that were asked were about Islam and its practices. Not one member of the audience wanted to learn anything about Christianity despite there being a number of Muslims present.

If this one directional curiosity is typical of an interfaith gathering there is a problem.

It seems that those in charge at this interfaith meeting have watered down their beliefs so much that they see anyone with a different viewpoint as a threat that must be removed.

I would have preferred to see them responding to such a gentle challenge, by using an interaction like this as an opportunity to discuss and openly dispel any extreme beliefs on display.

I was disappointed that no difficult topics were covered during the entire meeting, Worse still, the opportunity that presented was physically removed rather than encouraged.

I left rather dismayed at the way things unfolded. I hope this was not representative of all interfaith meetings, because if it is and intellectual discussions are shut down regularly, then only one side is winning and the other is all but lost.

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Of course they (Muslims) do not want anything to do with other religions nor infidels. It’s states the obvious all over the Quran, Hadiths, Sira! The entire purpose of these ‘inter-faith’ meetings are a form of stealth Dawah and any means of Mud’arat/Taqiyah is permitted to pull the wool over the Dhimmi’s eyes… and any serious discourse to the otherwise will be shut down immediately by any means necessary. Wake up people… ANZAR are moving ever so much closer to where the UK is today… that is beyond the point of no return in almost every one of their major… Read more »

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Like driving on the road, if you don’t pay attention or are distracted by trivialities you will crash. New Zealand has had a crash because no one paid attention. No one, particularly the politicians, can see anything that caused the crash except the road. Stupidity will lead to the biggest crash of all. Fortunately PP’s have read or taken note of history and can see the dangers ahead.

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Dear Jane Harris, thank you for sharing this most informative article with PP readers. I for one am certainly most interested in your first-hand experience, and would like to hear more, and further from you.

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If Pell had read the Bible?

Deuteronomy 19:15-19 (NKJV) The Law Concerning Witnesses. 15 “One witness shall not rise against a man concerning any iniquity or any sin that he commits; by the mouth of two or three witnesses the matter shall be established.

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New Post Up!

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There’s a new Howell post up.

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If this is true it is murder,and the electric chair should be the result.

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Ah ha. They see themselves as wanting to rule the world with subliminal greedy unnecessary Halal taxes, sure.

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Lots of perfectly sane and rational people believe that God exists.

That’s is a very qualified statement

Name one rational person that believes any religion is anywhere close to reality.

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Magistrate slams ‘misogynistic’ Setka as he admits harassing woman

“It’s the language, it’s the misogynistic language is what is causing concern,” Ms Wallington.

The alleged harassment of the woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, included a stream of calls and messages including calling her 25 times in one night and sending her 45 text messages including calling her a “treacherous Aussie f—en c—”, a “f—en dog” to a “weak f—en piece of shit”.

What’s misogynistic?

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Is Scomo really the anti Christ? How can a real Christian have Socialist ideals when they are atheists ideals? Call me old fashioned, but I smell a rat!

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Interfaith = Corrupting of Christianity.

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RUGBY AUSTRALIA — run by that slag from NZ and an idiot and con man named Peter Beattie.
Fair dinkum you Rugby lot are worse than us Victorians who voted in Dan The Man.

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Any discussions in NSW and QLD re latest Rugby contest in Perth. Rumours have it that Qld laid down and its players had heaps of money on a NSW victory.

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A major study on how to limit global warming could be dropped from formal UN climate talks in Bonn this week after a “gentlemen’s agreement” was made under pressure from Saudi Arabia.

Last December four large oil producers, Saudi Arabia, the US, Kuwait and Russia, refused to endorse the influential Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report.

https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/un-climate-talks-in-bonn-saudi-arabia-15c-ipcc-rejects-a8970481.html

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Japan has bowed to US pressure by watering down commitments to tackling climate change in its draft G20 communiqué, a sign of how Tokyo is seeking to curry favour with Washington amid tense trade talks and concerns over North Korea. The draft document omits the phrases “global warming” and “decarbonisation” and downplays the Paris climate accord compared with previous communiqués.

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Oregon Climate Action Plan – Economic pain for zero benefits
June 23, 2019|OREGON, GLOBAL WARMING, CLIMATE CHANGE, CARBON TAX

With the Governor now threatening to use the state police to force Senators back to their chamber, it would be a good time to look at the cold, hard facts of what this bill will and won’t do.

https://inconvenientfacts.xyz/blog/f/oregon-climate-action-plan-%E2%80%93-economic-pain-for-zero-benefits

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GOD the creator of everything living upon this planet is not religious so why are you ?

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Israel Folau

I am incredibly thankful for the Australian Christian Lobby, which has not only come to my defence in the media, but generously established a website to receive donations on my behalf.

https://twitter.com/IzzyFolau/status/1143665009362292736

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So Trump supposedly raped a woman Trump said I would not touch her with sleepy Joe dick

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Since Muslims are commanded to lie to infidels, it’s a waste of time.
It’s a waste of time anyway, chasing dark ages myths.

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Climate emergency: my granny cannot afford to turn on her heater here in Melbourne which is freezing. Africans and Muslims are getting free power as they never pay there bills and Andrews is a bleeding hear leftie and gives it free. The mosque at Broadmeadows has free heating, free food and free trade assistance. Several Muslim lay imams are earning huge money playing in the AFL and saying what they would do to homosexuals in the sanctuary of their mosques. A homosexual couple can force their church to marry them, but no mosque would even allow the perverted bustards in… Read more »

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I also emphatically believe in God, but I do NOT believe in “allah”, a figment of the imagination of that bogus “prophet”, Mo.

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Facebook to give data of hate speech suspects to French courts in world first

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Hurricanes Don’t Lie, But Climate Scientists Do Posted on June 25, 2019 by tonyheller June hurricanes used to be fairly common in the US when CO2 was below 350 PPM, but there have been none since CO2 reached the 350 PPM threshold. In 1886 the US was hit by seven hurricanes, including three category two hurricanes in June. That year was the most active hurricane season on record in the US, with CO2 below 300 PPM. The reason we don’t get June hurricanes is because the water is now too cold. Hurricanes can’t form until the water temperature reaches 79F.… Read more »

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Things I don’t understand … Why in the world do we so much time and space to Islamic nutters? They HATE the West, Christians, whites, America but they sure do want what we’ve got … work that out? Why the dipsticks that represent their countries but refuse to stand for the National Anthem are allowed to play? Surely they won’t give it their best? And why don’t selectors make it conditional … no standing or singing, no playing? Why people are attacking Maria Folau … all she is doing is being a good, faithful, loving, caring, supportive wife? And the… Read more »

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No Need For Rational Thought In Climate Science
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NASA shows land temperatures rising sharply from 1880 to 1899, and they show ocean temperatures falling during that same twenty year period.

Does anyone actually believe there could be a divergence like that for two decades? But no worries, the ocean data is mostly made up.

https://realclimatescience.com/2019/06/no-need-for-rational-thought-in-climate-science/

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Dear Jane
you have taken this long to recognize what we here on p/p have known for yonks

anyway good to see young ones waking up

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So Trump supposedly raped a woman who loves the thought of being clubbed over the head and dragged into a cave for rape. Some of the sluts I meet at the pub like it rough in the car and most say they love real bad boys like me, who expect them to give the full agenda. Women’s innate promiscuity has emerged over the last decade, as witnessed with the sex dripping bitches on Switch and MAFS. Most Muslim blokes who are my mates know the promiscuity of women and give out very rough sex including giving a good beating. In… Read more »

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Warning, warning, warning, apocalyptic catastrophic climate emergency event happening right now. It’s raining.

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Writing in the Radio Times, Daisy Goodwin, writer of the ITV drama Victoria, said that the late 1960s show was affecting Britons’ attitudes about Brexit, writing: “Forget Game of Thrones, Dad’s Army is the show that is embedded in this country’s imagination.”

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I could not stand alongside anyone who thinks it’s OK to stone women to death.

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While Israel Folau is being condemned by all those dopes on the Left for saying that homosexuals will go to hell if they don’t repent, those same dopes on the Left are not calling for the sacking of all islamists from playing those same sports, especially when islamists hate homosexuals so much that they actually throw them off the top of buildings. Those dopes on the Left sure have islamophobia. Not at all afraid to publicly rubbish and sake Folau who is a CHRISTIAN but terrified to publicly rubbish and sake islamic players who are ISLAMISTS. Islam is at war… Read more »

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talking about interfaih trainwrecks..yesterday reps from five major religious groups in Australia, jews, muslims Christians etc..all demanded Scumo ban coal as a moral duty…and said that God had given these 5 mthr fkers the responsibility to save the planet..by banning coal power.thats why they used to build mental asylums for maniacs like this

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Satanic Plaque and Altar Unearthed in The Queen’s Holyrood Park in Scotland In a secluded area of The Queen’s Holyrood Park in Edinburgh, Scotland, archaeologists have unearthed two mysterious objects, including a metal plaque depicting an upside-down pentagram with a horned beast in the center – most likely the demonic entity Baphomet – and an altar with undisclosed “display objects” around the plinth. While news outlets are calling the objects pagan, the symbology appears more associated with satanism and devil worship . Holyrood, The Seat of Scottish Royals The Scotsman announced that the satanic objects were found on Whinny Hill… Read more »

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I am thinking of starting a quasi religious sect where I can lie, steal, plunder, terrorize, murder all who do not accept my new doctrine. Oh! Wait…. Muhammad dreamt this gig up in the 7th century and would you believe now has 1.8 billion conversions. Most because they are afraid to leave because of the tenet that apostates are to be slaughtered, but there is a growing number of those who mimic good Old Mo and do the terrorizing and slautering in his name. Is the Pope a Muslim? I suspect he is. What hope is there of Christianity surviving… Read more »

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There seem to be a few imams posting on PP too Jane.

“His (The imam’s) speech also contained comedic but nonetheless derogatory comments about greedy Jews wanting to “rule the world.”

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John 10:30-39 New King James Version (NKJV) 30 I and My Father are as one.”

Deuteronomy 19:15-19 (NKJV) The Law Concerning Witnesses. 15 “One witness shall not rise against a man concerning any iniquity or any sin that he commits; by the mouth of two or three witnesses the matter shall be established.

“Christians worship one God in three persons: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit” (spirit holy). Is the “father” a person? So we have Jesus Christ and Paul plus the disciples as witnesses.

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Imagine being on a desert island ruled by Zali, Stick, the druggies mole, Trad, Pullachook, Gillhard, Carmen Lawrence, Germaine Greer, Sher Hite, and Ms Keneally. Imagine the society that they would create. And then horse face would arrive, wanting a root. I would be the leader of the male insurgency and would engage in rape and torture and chucking them off the cliff. Then I would capture beautiful island women and bring em back. Any poofs that emerged would be de-balled and become eunuch slaves.

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Thatcher said, ‘The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.’ That we quite understand but there’s a strange kind of envious hate emerging where the Left seem so irritated and almost crying and weeping watching how other people spend their own money. This is phenomenal, I’ve never seen people feeling deep pain and not hiding it but coming out and expressing it before all. They’re screaming at the top of their voices, in excruciating pain, it must be agonising, wailing and in constant mental anguish, watching other people give away money to some other… Read more »

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Islam is a real dumb religion, written by a bloke that married a 9 year old and copying large bits of the Old Testament. The Islamist princes had a war and 2 very different branches of Allah worship resulted, who hate each other plus they both hate anyone who does not read the Koran, which is a childish, simple document, borne of hatred. Then the male leaders of both bodies started to make rules: put the women in sacks and desexualised them, avoid pigs, stone sexual deviants, stone rape victims, beat your women folk, dismember thieves, fuck infidel women with… Read more »

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Interfaith? … just a global socialist invention … a “feel-good” appeasement exercise for the weak minded and misguided Christians …

They have sold their souls to the Devil .. Jesus will slam the door in their faces …

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The Australian Charities and Not-for-profits Commission has been asked to investigate the Australian Christian Lobby over its role in helping Israel Folau raise more than a million dollars for his legal fight against Rugby Australia (RA). “The ACNC can investigate concerns that a charity has breached the ACNC Act or the Governance Standards.” Who tha fruck are these people? Do they have offices, cars, credit cards? What do they do the rest of the time when they are not chasing this sort of crap? Who exactly asked them to investigate? I hope Izzy bankrupts RA and the whole lot get… Read more »

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This is some of the crap that The Donald has to put up with from the crazy lefties. Trump Rape Accuser Once Said “Women Love” Idea of Being Dragged Into a Cave by a Man Trump rape accuser E. Jean Carroll once said that “women love” the idea of a man with a “big club” dragging them into a cave. The bizarre exchange occurred during a 1995 appearance by Carroll on Charlie Rose’s show. The topic of conversation veered into how, according to Carroll, women were obsessed with men. During the taping, fellow guest Jimmy Breslin commented, “Yeah but there’s… Read more »