Troops at the butterworth airbase in Malaya

If you asked any soldier, sailor or airman who is even remotely involved in warfighting if they thought about the “administrative tail” of their efforts, most wouldn’t give it a second thought.

In my day, it took something like 100 people to put one combat soldier in the field and support them.  So, the warfighter had a long administrative and logistic tail.

Be under no illusion.  In Australia, our military is second to none when it comes to the troops in the field and those who support them…… until it gets to the civilians who populate our Department of Defence, Department of Veteran’s Affairs and the Australian Public Service in general. 

That’s when the wheels well and truly fall off.  And the further away from the fighting you go, the more ready the players are to lie, obfuscate and avoid their moral responsibility.

Case in point – in 1968 the Second Malayan Emergency (sometimes called the Counter-Insurgency War) kicked off in Malaysia. 

The first Emergency had ended in 1960, but the Communist Terrorists were not done attempting to wrest power from the government from their bases in Southern Thailand and sprinkled amongst Malay society.

We had a huge airbase at Butterworth with the majority of Australia’s fighter aircraft stationed there and it needed to be protected.  This was a strategic base to combat communist aggression in keeping with the domino theory. 

The strapped Malays couldn’t afford the troops to do that.  They were too busy fighting the insurgency.  So, Australia started rotating troops from Singapore until they were returned to Australia. 

RAAF Mirage fighters at butterworth in Malaysia. Australian Army diggers were ripped off for defending this assett
RAAF Mirages on the tarmac at Butterworth protected by diggers who would soon be short changed by Whitlam

After that – from 1970 – Australia started sending troops on rotation direct from Australia.  Mostly Infantry and armed for war.  In fact, they were put through all the pre-deployment training and preparation as if they were going to Vietnam.  Why?  Because the deployment met the criteria for warlike service.

But there was a problem.  Firstly, the Malays were sensitive in their newly-independent condition of having foreign military within their borders and fighting their war for them.  Add to that, the election campaign of Gough Whitlam who wanted to change our military posture from “forward defence” to “fortress Australia”. 

In other words, he wanted to bring all the troops home to where it was cheaper so he could strip the military to fund his social welfare programs. 

After he was elected, Gough was appraised of the obligations to protect Butterworth and to contribute to the Five Power Defence Agreement that replaced the South East Asian Treaty Organisation (SEATO).

What to do?  If it were known that combat troops were being deployed to Butterworth, it would appear that he had broken an election promise.  The solution was to portray the deployment as “training” and thus the deception was born.

If one were to deal only in raw data and other facts, the deployments to Butterworth were commitments to war service. 

The host country was experiencing an insurgency, the Australian assets had to be protected and the host country didn’t have the resources to protect them. 

Into that breach steps the Australian Army, ready as ever to do the heavy lifting and to be the instrument of Australia’s foreign policy, including their foreign policy stuff-ups.

Let’s step aside at this point and consider the RAAF commitment to Ubon in Thailand.  Thailand was at peace, but it had an airbase occupied by foreign military within its borders. 

The Vietnam war was raging and Ubon played a part in it, just as Butterworth did.  Ubon had RAAF Airfield Defence Guards (ADGs) protecting the airbase, just as the Army did at Butterworth. 

But herein lies the rub – the ADGs at Ubon were recognised as being on war service whereas the troops protecting the air base at Butterworth were not.

From 1970 – 1989 when the peace treaty between the government of Malaysia and the Communist terrorists was signed, Malaysia was at war. 

It was a civil war, or an insurgency.  Call it what you will.  I’m sure the families of the 150+ Malay soldiers and police who were killed in combat believe they were at war.  In the period that the ADGs protected Ubon, Thailand was at peace. 

From a comparative perspective why would the guys deployed to Ubon be considered on war service and those deployed to Butterworth not?

If you print out the raw primary data on A4 pages and stack them on the floor, the pile stands over a metre high.  The secondary data and anecdotal evidence each stand at a similar height. 

It contains 123 formerly secret documents and one top secret document.  Yet, in the face of all that irrefutable evidence, the Australian Department of Defence, DVA, government and public service deny that the Second Malayan Emergency ever took place.

They say that what the 9,000 soldiers did was akin to anything they would have done in Australia. 

Why?

Well might you ask.  Well, the answer is as simple as it is disgraceful.  There was a decision-making process to determine if the 9,000 soldiers who served protecting Butterworth should be granted recognition for warlike service.

During this process, the Department of Veterans Affairs (which should not have been involved in the process) made a submission that they didn’t have the budget to pay the repatriation benefits involved.  And the Department of Defence went along with it.

This morally bankrupt, low act effectively put dollars before diggers.  Let’s be clear…. of the 9,000 who served, the more senior ones would have already earned their entitlements from deployments to Vietnam, Malaya, Borneo etc.

The younger ones would have gone on to serve in East Timor, Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan and so on, thereby earning their repatriation benefits and other entitlements. 

The nett figure of those “between the wars” diggers who have been “dudded” by the federal government is probably less than 2,000 and a lot of them have passed away.

Successive governments and the public service have perpetuated the deception that the deployment was only for training purposes to deny our diggers their just entitlements. 

They continue to this day.  On 2 December 2019 it will be 30 years since the signing of the peace treaty.  Lest we forget.

THERE IS SO MUCH MORE TO THIS STORY.  IF YOU WANT TO HEAR THE REST OF IT, LET ME KNOW IN THE COMMENTS SECTION AND ASK FOR MORE ON THE RCB CASE.

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Treason in government – BASTARDS—WHY the Government wants Foreign Interference Legislation “…………….Politicians that undermine the Constitution of the Commonwealth by using illegal lawmaking will no longer able to be prosecuted by law after it is passed. The Attorney’s General Department is simply using Foreign Interference to rush this “modernised” treachery legislation through our Parliament. According to the Department of Attorney General website under TREASON TREACHERY and OFFENCES against the GOVERNMENT new changes are being proposed to existing legislation. “The existing offence of treason in the Criminal Code does not refer to modern international terminology relating to armed conflict. Existing offences… Read more »

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O/T…03/12/2019:…DON’T CROSS LONDON BRIDGE ON A FRIDAY… I’ve never taken much notice of Jackie Lambie, but if she is asking about national security issues in relation to Medevac, then maybe she is one of the very few pollies aware of the reality of islam for the countries it insidiously colonises. What Lady P. said in an earlier post is correct: ‘You cannot pick or choose which one will turn on us’. I do believe that Peter Dutton as PM would have a better chance than any other at finding a way to deal with this issue – and every other… Read more »

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How is it we borrow money to give away to dozens of foreign countries, spend billions on racially based Aboriginal compensation and squander tens of billions on things like NBN, De Salinization, The Barrier Reef Fund, The Clinton Foundation, The Paris Accord and the destructive UN when we cannot afford to look after those who fight for this country risking life & limb?

Another mystery, or crime, of epic proportion?

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Reading these reports about George Christensen and his, regular, sojourns in the Philippines yet regardless of security concerns or what he was doing there I notice a distinct lack of interest in the HOW! I might be wrong, of course, but surely even among the troughing elite being able to spend a total of 10 months out of 4 years on holiday(s) anywhere is a record even for the gravy train .. Assuming it isn’t all on full pay (which I doubt) what sort of job, apart from teaching, offers such generous leave entitlements? It seems that all this waffle… Read more »

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Amazon Drops Auschwitz-Themed Christmas Decorations After Protest
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Amazon has withdrawn a range of “Christmas ornaments” displaying images of a former Nazi concentration camp vendors had listed on its website.

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‘F*** the Jews, Kill the Jews’ – Senior Rabbi Beaten in Khan’s London
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A senior rabbi was left bleeding on the ground after two teens brutally beat him while shouting “fuck the Jews” and “kill the Jews” in London.

On the same evening as the London Bridge terrorist attack, a rabbi who was visiting London was beaten in the Amhurst Park area of Stamford Hill, Hackney.

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2gb’s new wet sponge steve price had a great idea yesterday…He said that radicalised moslems should be made to swear on the quran and denounce violence…What a fu**witt.Perhaps the ant should ask waleed what Taqiyya is.Or better yet get out of the way and let Michael Smith explain it.

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Tories Would Introduce Australia-Style Immigration System
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The Conservatives have said that they will introduce a points-based, Australia-style immigration system if they win the December 12th General Election.

Home Secretary Priti Patel announced the measures on Monday, saying: “When people voted to leave in 2016, they were voting to take back control of our borders. After Brexit, we will introduce an Australia-style points-based immigration system and take steps to strengthen our border and improve the security of the UK.”

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SOMEONE PLEASE, PLEASE, EXPLAIN TO ME HOW ANY THINKING LIBERAL PARLIAMENTARY PARTY MEMBER COULD EVER HAVE VOTED FOR MALCOLM TURNBULL?

Every indicator known to man points to the deeply flawed character of this lowlife and only fools or the like minded would empower him.

Everything he does, says and thinks is tainted by his tortured soul, and he should not be given media access to air his putrid venom, idiocy and unbridled ineptness.

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Delingpole: More Green BS from Attenborough – Polar Bears v Beluga Edition
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Sir David Attenborough has been caught out telling more porkie pies to promote his green agenda – this time with a whale of tale in which he misleadingly suggests that ‘climate change’ has altered polar bears’ feeding habits.

The whispery-voiced, gorilla-hugging, walrus-slaying Malthusian made his claim on his Seven Worlds One Planet series for the BBC.

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Bushfire talk by extreme Greens and equivalent fail to consider that the climate here became drier from around 130,000 years ago and the rainforests were mostly replaced by the present bush vegetation and then from 1788 imported rubbish. And the lack of regular patch by patch burning that promoted natural grasslands resulted in too many areas of tangled undergrowth and fire hazard material on the ground beneath the tangle of undergrowth. Last year I watched a video on Australia and after 1788 history. One segment explained that after Sydney Town was established in Port Jackson cattle went missing and the… Read more »

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I have GOT to get me one of these signs.

https://ibb.co/QdG5FN2

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The unabridged real time account of the London Bridge knife attack ..
https://twitter.com/i/status/1201441741418717185

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Scumbag ISIS Rapist forced to face his accuser.

This Powerful Young Woman had the courage to face this despicable piece of trash.

– “I was 14 years old”
– “You destroyed my life”
– “You robbed me of my dreams”

But, in the end, the trama is too much…

https://twitter.com/America1stTiger/status/1201521043044786178

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FIREWORKS! Rudy Threatens to Sue Fox News Host Steve Hilton For Slanderous Hit Piece

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/fireworks-rudy-threatens-to-sue-fox-news-host-steve-hilton-for-slanderous-hit-piece/

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Bureau of Meteorology declares spring 2019 the driest on record
ABC Weather : By Kate Doyle

Spring 2019 was officially the driest of the Bureau of Meteorology’s 120 years of rainfall records.
It comes on top of previous dry seasons, with the year-to-date rainfall now the second lowest on record.

Western Australia was particularly dry, as well as hot, recording its lowest spring rainfall, highest average temperature and highest mean daytime temperature.

It was the fifth-warmest spring on record for the country as a whole — mean maximum temperatures were 2.41C warmer than average, second only to 2014.

Ducktracy
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Conservative Media Killing Operation Mockingbird
By Lloyd Marcus

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Not a dictator? listens to it’s people? this fella is dangerous!

https://twitter.com/CaptainAus1/status/1201538238801833984

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There once was an arsehole called Gough,
Who was born a socialist toff,
He was a big failure,
Rooted Australia,
And ripped all our good diggers off.

Powerage
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The Rise and Fall of the Holocaust Industry

No serious historian would now maintain that the soap idea can sustain any historical and forensic validity, unless he wants to lose his credibility as a historian.

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/12/02/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-holocaust-industry/

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The best years to be born in the history of Earth & we got to experience it all. Thank God for all the times, the adventures, wars won, technology developed. Generations after future generations will never experience what we did. What a generation we turned out to be. To Those of Us Born 1925 – 1955: At the end of this email is a quote of the month by Jay Leno. If you don’t read anything else, Please read what he said. ~~~~~~~~~ TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED THE 1930’s, 40’s, and 50’s !! or had parents that did!!… Read more »

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Will it ever be different for our Veterans?? Seemingly not. My Dad served in RAAF in WW11.Never left Australia and was for decades denied a gold card because he had not “served overseas”. That never really bothered him as he was a pay his own way sort of bloke….Until he realised that if you were a Taswegian and crossed Bass Strait, you were entitled to the lot;still not having left Australia!!! It continues to be a Bloody disgrace on the names of successive governments! Only when their kith and kin are the ones in the firing line will we see… Read more »

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?? This may have already had a run on PP. However it’s of such importance we need to raise the red flag and give it a rerun. Note that although highly critical of China’s machinations and relentless efforts to steal intellectual property, spy on everyone — and ultimately rule the world — it’s by a Chinese US citizen, an excellent, regular writer for Gatestone Institute. Not all Chinese people are Chicomms; they’re not all ChiNazis:

China Adopts Malicious “Cybersecurity” Rules

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On 1 January, China’s ‘Crypoygraohy Law’ becomes effective … showing Beijing’s absolute determination to seize from foreign companies all … Cont’d

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Was reminded of the story when the F111’s came into service – the Indonesian Foreign Minister, or the Minister for Defence, wasn’t above pointing out, at Government meetings that “annoying the Australians was not a good idea – they now had an aircraft that could put a missile through the window of this room…”

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https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/58ac76daf5d76531669c9532882d5d80?width=1024 FIVE people have been killed in a single-vehicle crash after their vehicle left the road, rolled and crashed into trees, NT Police say. Major Crash investigators are at the scene of the fatal crash which occurred approximately 60 kilometres west of Jabiru on the Arnhem Highway on Monday morning. Police on scene could not provide information other than the fact the crash happened at high-speed and the vehicle was travelling away from Jabiru. A tyre, still attached to the axle, lay more than 20m away from the shell of the car, which was burnt beyond recognition and split in… Read more »

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And I suppose these Greens bastards don’t have the future blood of millions of babies on their hands for legalising abortion in NSW with Gladys. Hypocritical arseholes.

‘Blood on their hands’: Medevac debate begins in Senate as supporters warn against repeal

Senator McKim said medevac had improved the medical transfer of refugees in offshore processing.

“Anybody who does support the repeal of medevac can expect to have blood on their hands, more blood than they’ve already got on their bloody, bloody hands,” he told the Senate.

“Doctors should make these decisions, not politicians and bureaucrats.”

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/blood-on-their-hands-medevac-debate-begins-in-senate-as-supporters-warn-against-repeal

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TURNBULL IS WRITING HIS AUTOBIOGRAPHY ….

Turnbull’s autobiography, egotistically named “A Bigger Picture” is due for release next year.

I imagine it will be on sale at a significantly discounted price in bookstores not too long after it’s release .. due to lack of interest.

Continued in replies …

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Seeing the photo of Mirages brings back fond memories of my time in the sixties and involvement (maybe small) of bringing them into service, then latter posting in the late seventies to 77Sqn. A great aircraft.

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Ch 10’s The Amazing Race living up to the PC standard. Made sure the 2 straight, white Aussie blokes who have been way ahead all the time, had so many obstacles in their way that they are out. Will be interesting to see how many don’t bother watching the finale. Will it be the gay couple on their honeymoon, the Vietnamese couple or the Aboriginal couple? See the pattern there?

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Protesting 130 Years Of Sea Level Rise At Sydney
Posted on December 2, 2019 by tonyheller

Sea level hasn’t increased, but civilization is in a precipitous decline.

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The Phantom Returns Again

The Estes Park Climate Crisis
Posted on December 2, 2019 by tonyheller 2min

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=25&v=_pA2oI-Vkqc&feature=emb_logo

buraq3
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buraq3

Seen Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, BBS?

DRYEYE
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Mr. Kelly, I don’t think this technique is exclusively Defence – but I would like to hear more. The Department of Human Resources pays some of their staff with ex-gratia payments tax free – I suspect to avoid staff classifications, statutory protections, super and worker’s comp. More please.

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You’re braver than me Scotty, I won’t watch DeZiro following his pathetic rants. He can go jump in my opinion.

mots
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Thanks Peter, great piece. What a disgusting set of traitorous circumstances. How sad for those that were dudded. It’s a wonder people still join up, most are more than likely unaware of what went on.

Trumby
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On the fake TV news tonight we learned that the black fellas used to sail vessels along the coast before white fellas arrived .

Powerage
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Powerage

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Feeding the Fat Green Pigs.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRUAjjTh_bU

This is what Hong Kong protesters are WARNING

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Blair Cottrell Verified Account @RealBlairCottrell Edited For the last hundred years or so, legislators have used the same trick over and over again. And when I say legislators I don’t mean parliamentarians and party-politicians, I mean the people who hand those stooges the laws they want passed and pay them for it. Twenty years ago, “multiculturalism” was the hype-word. It was the term repeated a million times by TV news journalists, radio hosts, teachers and all of the various breeds of so-called expert in and around the political class. But they don’t use that word much anymore, because despite half… Read more »

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Lewinsky

What religion is the judge that released the Islamic knifer?

JeffofFNQ
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I recall back quite a few years ago (1970s) an RAF Vulcan bomber landed at RAAF Base Darwin to take part in a joint RAF/RAAF exercise.

Two RAAF Mirages escorted the delta winged Vulcan into Darwin each flying above the Vulcan’s wings.

As the Vulcan touched down with its nose in the air each Mirage took off into a near vertical climb. Magical sight.

Vulcan bomber at British Air Show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNnIXvjf-TY

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Where are you Billy, being the knowall you are Shirley you can fill me in!
BillyA

little interest in the lead story: an apology I expect for all the other shit posted and a weak attempt to get some local “colour” into the place

Indignant Elder

Don’t know one thing about the lead story I’m sorry to say, not my fault, I was just an immigrant boy in the sixties.
It’d be great if you could fill me in A’ Billy!

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With all of the corruption within the FBI and CIA which only Trump was able to expose, who do we have here in Australia who will do the same with the AFP and ASIO?

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Off topic, Greta Thingberg tells the truth. (Credit Michael Smith)

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/climate-strikes-un-conference-madrid-by-greta-thunberg-et-al-2019-11

‘That action must be powerful and wide-ranging. After all, the climate crisis is not just about the environment. It is a crisis of human rights, of justice, and of political will. Colonial, racist, and patriarchal systems of oppression have created and fueled it. We need to dismantle them all. Our political leaders can no longer shirk their responsibilities.’

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The Palestinian Delusion “teaches you how to answer when one is confronted with by Israel-haters and Jew-haters”
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“If you want to learn the whole unknown hidden truth of the Arab/Islamic war against Israel, read this book from cover to cover. Robert Spencer’s book teaches you how to answer virtually every propaganda lie about Israel and Arabs when one is confronted with by Israel-haters, Jew-haters, and those simply ignorant of the facts.