Climate is always changing, but luckily we live in an era with a stable, benign, warm climate and a healthy, abundant bio-sphere.

Alarmists who claim that today’s climate changes are unprecedented have not checked the climate history written in the rocks, the ice cores, the satellite registers and the tide gauges.

Ice core records show that current temperatures and sea levels are not extreme – they are more stable than they were as the last ice age ended just 12,000 years ago. At that time, global temperature increased quickly, the great ice sheets melted, sea levels rose rapidly (130 metres), and the warming seas expelled much of their dissolved carbon dioxide into the atmosphere 

As a result of this natural global warming and the additional moisture and carbon dioxide plant food in the atmosphere, plant life recovered and the great forests and grasslands were re-established.

Check the Ice Core Records:
http://carbon-sense.com/index.php?s=ice+cores&Submit=Go

http://carbon-sense.com/2009/10/03/taxing-ambulances/

Not one coal-fired power station, diesel truck or feedlot of belching bovines contributed to those massive climate changes; and ancient witch-doctors were unable to prevent flooding of coastal settlements by sacrificing humans to the Climate God. Then, as now, nature controls the climate.

More recent evidence from ice cores, sediment layers and even historical records show that for the last 7,000 years Earth’s climate has been relatively stable. Even more recently, satellite records show that global temperatures have not risen significantly for 18 years.

Check satellite temperature records:
http://www.climatecommonsense2.com/2015/10/september-record-claims.html

The tide gauges surrounding the Pacific show that sea levels are barely rising and satellites show that there is little change in the average area of polar ice.

Check the Sea Levels:
http://carbon-sense.com/index.php?s=sea+levels&Submit=Go

Our climate is NOT changing rapidly, no matter how often alarmists and their media mates repeat this lie.

Today, witch-doctors wearing UN/IPCC head-dress are again demanding that humans sacrifice their industry and jobs on the carbon altar in the hope of changing the climate. This sacrifice will enrich green vested interests but will fail to change the climate.

Alarmists should check the facts. Just one stubborn fact or careful observation will beat 97 pal-reviewed opinions.

Some Fact Checking on Bank of England alarmism:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/12/fact-checking-mark-carneys-catastrophic-climate-claims/

Alarmists should heed Senator Moynihan’s advice: 
“You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.”

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20674837

It’s a well known fact !

ThePragmatist
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ThePragmatist
Gunner
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Gunner

Always a pleasure to read the un-homogenised facts thank you Viv.

Dynamite
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Dynamite

How many shills in the “climate change” industry, misinforming and scaring the children, PM?

alio
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alio

Do you really think ALL that money will go into “safer” housing.
More likely lavish housing for the distributors of that money.

WKG
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WKG

I think a lot of people are growing tired of hearing that CO2 is so terrible when in fact there has been an increase in vegetation right across the world. It’s always sounded pathetic from Labor and the Greens but now even more tragic. Here is a link to an article by an American, David Siegel, who confesses he has seen the light on the scam: https://medium.com/@pullnews/what-i-learned-about-climate-change-the-science-is-not-settled-1e3ae4712ace Each day I find it interesting to check the hottest and coldest on record for that day. Today, 20th October 1900 recorded 36.3 degrees as the hottest on record.

martydude2.0
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martydude2.0

As with any crime, always follow the money. The UN was broke before global warming and the biggest debtor was the US. Now with peddling the global warming con it is not only overflowing with cash it has put on countless bureaucrats and employ scientists to feed the scam. All the while the gullible and those who need to be told how to think fall into it. Not to mention governments who will reap billions of tax dollars to waste on inefficient, ineffective technology and hold power from these same idiots. Great work by them, create a non existent problem… Read more »

chumo
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chumo

O/T. Can we get our planes to hell out of Syria, before we are treated to some cock-up , where one gets shot down, “accidentally”, like MH17 ? At least MH17 was legally there even if it was stupid. Our RAAF is not even legitimately in Syria. Or have we declared war on Syria ? Or is it that the Yanks need help to bomb more civilians power stations in Aleppo ? We are dangerously close to war criminal status, the US would drop us in it , if it was in their interest.

chumo
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chumo

Our Govt is signed onto Agenda 21. They MUST follow the orders of the New World Order. We are required to be fewer, poorer and less empowered. The signatures are dry on the UN documents and Paris will bring more amendments.

Chief
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Chief

fish fossils on mountains, animal fossils on the bottom of the ocean……..hello…..

chumo
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chumo

You don’t think Mal knows all this? Banks and banksters make money from trading in fear. Truth is the casualty.

NoosaDuck
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NoosaDuck

The Seychelles have not been anything close to being under water for a minimum of 3000 years and that is confirmed by core drilling in the lagoon of the main Island in 2008.
the hysteria over warming could be understood if they were actually concerned about the real nasty…….global cooling…real cooling as in “Ice age”….
Try feeding the growing world population with only 40% of the worlds arable land available for cropping….and 40% of the planet in a perpetual winter all year…..
Global warming is the greatest wank since the hoola hoop

grimreaper
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grimreaper

sorry folks, fat finger. real post follows: what a remarkable assembly of misleading pseudo factoids. For those who may be seriously interested in reality, google “PETM” (Paleocene Eocene thermal maximum) and despair. One does not need a degree in geology to understand the message from the past.

grimreaper
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grimreaper

cvcc

LoneWolf
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LoneWolf

Green logic … If you stand in the water two meters from the beach the water is below your knees however, if you go into the water twenty meters from the beach the water may well come up to your chest … there you go, absolute proof of rising sea-levels.

ApplePie
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ApplePie

I am waiting for the UN to come out and say “OK folks it was all a big hoax to weed out the gullible nutters”.

Panda
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Panda

Some of the people that live on man made islands off the coast of Malaita, in the Solomons, have never needed to add extra height over sea level, as the “sea” has never risen. Except in a massive storm or typhoon. Then they move to the main island and sit out the storm with relatives.

stukric
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stukric

There are always 2 sides to everything so if you don’t believe the UN & NATO are not geo engineering prove it Viv. I didn’t believe man could wreck the planet but now I’m not so sure, explain away Dane Wigington’s http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/ if you are.

MagillaGorilla
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MagillaGorilla

Again , well written Viv . Unfortunately very few people recognise the truth any more .

TonyH
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TonyH

It’s all being done in the pursuit of the New World Order, One World Government! The Socialist agenda. To scare people into submission.

kwilley50
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kwilley50

If we all copied this piece and forwarded it to our dopey politicians there is a chance that the flood may prompt some of them to read and understand that the United Nation’s is jerking our purse strings to enable them to achieve their goal of global government.

Chloe-twd
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Chloe-twd

What happened to the hole in the ozone layer?

Beegle
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Beegle

The American EPA is right now caning VW for making vehicles that are twice as efficient ie emit half the co2 . But you’d never guess that from the sneaky enviro jargon they use eg “emitting 10 times the pollutants” . Or a Vespa Moped puts out 20 times the pollution of a car. The 100 plus mpg doesn’t come into their calculations. Of coarse we all why the subterfuge ,the hidden agenda , the universal carbon tax.

joylene
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joylene

That is because they are illiterate.

bumhead
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bumhead

@The Phantom

Mate, they already have…

“But according to scientists at the university, even though the scientific credibility of the disaster film was dismissed, the scenario of an abrupt collapse of AMOC caused by global warming was never tested with sophisticated climate modelling.”

http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/new-climate-modelling-shows-the-conditions-portrayed-in-the-day-after-tomorrow-movie-are-not-so-far-fetched/story-fnjwvztl-1227566488025

Emmett
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Emmett

Ignoring facts doesn’t make them go away. Take note please Mr. Flannery et al.

twentytwenty
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vecchio
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vecchio

The, so called, “climate scientists” who propound the oceans rising crap should use their education to do a proper calculation of the availability of melted ice and the time required to melt in order to raise the oceans by any significant amount and then publish an apology for the rubbish they have propounded and tear up their certificates, if any..

franK
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franK

I can hardly wait, what about all those with waterfront blocks claiming compensation when the tide goes out and stays out?
New developments build on the fresh coastline, in front of the once prime land!
hehe

ThePragmatist
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ThePragmatist

In late 1995 I visited Port Arthur in Tasmania. During that visit, I also visited the Isle of the Dead where the cemetery is. In 1841 over 170 years ago, Thomas Lempriere (Deputy Assistant Commissary General at the Port Arthur penal settlement) had been marking the high and low water mark (which he dated) which was also clearly evident by algae growth. The high and low sea level are the same today as they were 170 years ago. I made a special note of this because if my memory serves me correct, the global warming pushers were gearing up and… Read more »

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Whacked2

Thanks Viv – but the Greenies will not and do not consider anything different than anthropological warming. Used to love visiting Bad Astronomy and argued several years ago on merits or otherwise- gave up – he still attacks those dumb US politicians who denounce climate change and they are easy targets – they (pollies) know sweet jack shit about the science behind it all. Me – well – do not argue anymore as the idiots I try and convert have a smug indifference to the facts.

mots
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mots

Good stuff Viv. It’s a battle with the media against the truth. Thanks and well done.

DiamondDave
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DiamondDave

Here Viv have a read, it’s about a frog TV weather bloke who told the truth and now is suspended
http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/38115

Minkers
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Minkers

But that is the problem, Viv. They make up the facts and then present them to us as being true. This is “1984” but with natural climate being altered to suit their Agenda.